(I am not posting this on Dice Influencing on purpose.) How can anyone be a Dice Setter / Dice Influencer and have no idea that the Casino has pulled a fast one. Dice are NOT the same. Look over ten pair of dice. Same Casino. Notice anything? Probably not as you are spending too much time setting the dice and have no idea that your dice are not... identical. You speak of Die Bias and Randomness and Delivery of Dice to the end of a Crap's Table. Yet, ignore the tools of the trade... DICE. How many of you have examined an assortment of dice, closely? They may look identical to the amateur, which most on this Thread must be if you are scratching your head, or whatever. Same Casino. Same Color. Same pip diameters. Same Logos. Same Weight. Same Cube Diameters. Perfection and Random outcomes. Have I missed anything? Yes. Exactly. Why give away information to those who seem to Know It All... yet do not. I am an admitted Dice Chucker. Yet I study the six faces on each die. But if anyone can post what I have left out of my list of die, non variances... give it a shot. It may seem so obscure to some, but if you are so concerned about 'Die Variances'... wake up. My clues are plenty, already. If the discussion is short... with no interest... you all have the answer. DI's have not spend much time looking at what they are trying to control. DICE.