Dice Influencing - Reduced Cost Course !

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  1. $nakeEye$, Feb 28, 2018

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  2. tabletop123, Mar 2, 2018

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  3. James Hall, Mar 2, 2018

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    What you say is OH SO true , many on this forum want to play craps but ARE NOT INTERESTED IN LEARNING HOW TO WIN
    I have tried to teach them stuff but they just won't learn , in fact when I try to help , some of them get plain mean ,
    I am to the point where I think I am going to quit even trying .
    Guys like , "TDevious Vegas , horn in his hooter , edward from Kentucky , DeRanged mango and a few others
    don't appreciate any of those of us who try to help them .

    I make a special effort to periodically post my very detailed , "MEtails , to keep them informed of my periodic exploits and
    they , DON"T APPRECIATE any of that either , they are just totally ungrateful . They say I have an ego and that I am arrogant
    which leads me to believe I should just stop trying to help at all , but they desperately need the help
    so I will persevere and maybe they will quit being so stuborn and learn something
    In addition to my regular efforts I will be posting my weekly , "MEtails" at least once per week
    in an effort to help some of these unskilled dead heads , "SHAPE UP"

    "GAWD KNOWS THEY NEED THE HELP"
     
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  4. von duck, Mar 2, 2018

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    I am very interested. This appears to be a chance to receive "nothing"aka "nada", at a reduced price. I have always been one, that could not pass up a bargain. Put me down for three, no mustard, to go, please. :)
     
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    Well, I don't know what, or how Heavy, & Howard instruct, but I've picked up a few things from G that I probably never would have discovered on my own.
    Personally, I think the best instruction is a get together of experienced tossers that can exchange information, share ideas.

    Regarding charging folks for instruction on how to toss dice?......In my opinion....a complete waste of money, UNLESS you know absolutely nothing about various ways to toss the dice.

    Ya make plans for a "get together", & all involved toss the Individual thats hosting the "get together" a little "something something"!
    Everything that is taught in these classes can be learned for free...right over the internet. However, I DO think that a trained eye can certainly see Things that YOU might not see.

    Just my opinion.
     
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  6. James Hall, Mar 2, 2018

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    A lot of what you sat is correct
    The trained eye thing is , "GOLD"
    Some months ago two of the mesa guys were in Vegas and had a bad day , when they got back to town they came to the house so I could see what they were doing
    I stood for a bit and watched them throw ,
    the results were not what the normally experienced
    I watched for some time and still was not seeing what was causing the problem
    Got out the camera and filmed them in slow mo both from head on and from the side
    hooked up to the projector and projected on the wall
    Finally spotted the problem
    Both of them were suffering the same two problems , we corrected both problems , they were good to go
    Sometimes it just helps to have someone else take a look , "TWO SETS OF EYES"
     
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    Running out of Alumni!
     
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    What do you use potash for anyway?
     
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    ammunition , fertilizer and a myriad of things , it is mined and where you find potash you usually
    find salt , there are massive deposits of it in the Permian basin of the Southwest United States
     
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  10. $nakeEye$, Mar 2, 2018

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    THAT was exactly what the " AC Group " did -

    Additionally, each player got to shoot from his / her preferred shooting position -

    Dice Sets were made known to the group -

    IF a shooter had to move into his / her spot - the person occupying that spot moved out of the way -

    NO ONE made line or field bets - ONLY place bets - in an effort to keep the landing zones wide open -

    Subtle things like that - EVERY one being on the SAME page - with the SAME purpose - liberate the casino's dinero !


    However, from what I have observed of late - THOSE days are LONG gone - people are too preoccupied with OTHER stuff !

    And have little - or - no knowledge of how to effectively play as a " TEAM " or " GROUP " !


    $...eE..$
     
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  11. NokTang, Mar 2, 2018

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    Anyone...anyone...yes anyone...who thinks you can influence the result of a dice throw's outcome is just thinking too much. Paying for the positive thoughts, well there is an argument to be made same have positive value. But it remains an out and out scam when you are being taught how to toss dice so as to result in a more frequent desired outcome. Feeling good about how you do something doesn't unfortunately result in a change in the outcomes.(edit..it can change the result of and during sexual activities, the feeling about etc..)

    I guess my feelings above explain why I wasn't approved on the referenced site's registration. They are a sales organization and anything which might detract from sales is thought of as negative. We had an expression in the Gulf of Mexico..."Fish On!!!!" and when someone is considering sending money they are a "fish on" and you don't want others in the ocean getting in the way. The sales efforts are no original at all but the victims are in fact naive.
     
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    "Since I'll be off-line for much of the next week"

    You folks in the USA don't have WIFI and smart phones nationwide? Someone's got to control the money coming in and class size I would think?
     
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  14. $nakeEye$, Mar 2, 2018

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    The " Golden Shower " is ONLY the TIP of the iceberg -

    ADD on " the After Glow Fees " which ONE of these less than stellar shooters charged -

    Then you will be fighting with the Original UnderCoverDiceThug as to WHO shits in the urinal on a habitual basis -

    " Just sayin' "


    I went down that crooked road ONCE - as did a substantial amount of the AC Crew -

    Left a " Bad Taste " in our mouths when we came to realize that we got screwed - ROYALLY - the agenda was NOT as expected !


    Taking a " seminar " in MY OPINION - is a TOTAL waste of TIME and MONEY -


    One is BETTER off taking a " Private Lesson " - where you have the UNDIVIDED attention of the instructor -


    BUT - MAKE CERTAIN - that the " INSTRUCTOR " that you select - has HIS / HER SHIT in ORDER !

    You WILL find that THIS route is MUCH cheaper in the long run !

    And THAT is a FACT - Jack !

    Been there and DONE it !

    Like they said many years ago - and is still true to this day - " Caveat Emptor " !


    $...eE..$
     
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    You got that right my friend.........

    Aj
     
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  16. $nakeEye$, Mar 4, 2018

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    And I assume that YOU arrived at THAT conclusion with your little pea sized brain !

    And - ALL ALONE - if I might add !

    As you say " thinking too much " - well I say it might JUST NOT be a " Bad Thing " -

    MUCH better than NOT THINKING at ALL -

    Which is EXACTLY WHAT the majority of Keyboard Crapsters on This Board do routinely !


    Go sit on your stool / chair whatever you want to call it and waddle in your mistaken belief that the game of craps is random !

    You want random -

    Play Bingo with the grey haired old ladies -

    THAT's RANDOM !


    $...eE..$
     
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  17. $nakeEye$, Mar 4, 2018

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    For the Record -

    Let there be NO confusion as to where I stand regards the premise of DI / DC -

    I am an ADVOCATE of the craft / science / belief / practice - WHATEVER one desires to call it / qualify it as -

    I have certain / personal issues with a few of the instructors solely due to their business practices -

    However, THAT does NOT diminish the benefit obtained IF one needs further assistance to get their game to the " A " level !


    I have said this before - and - i will reiterate it time and time again -

    IF - YOU - want to take the next step forward to advance YOUR game -

    Take a " Private Lesson " as opposed to a " Seminar " type venue -

    You will find it MUCH cheaper and MORE effective in the long run !


    Regards the rejection of Nok Tang's application -

    That goes unsaid -

    Heavy does NOT tolerate the Bull Shit which is prevalent here -

    IF YOU do NOT meet HIS standards for qualification to HIS board -

    Simply put -

    " Hit the road, Jack "

    Heavy is Good People - as are the majority of the members of his forum -

    I elected to leave that venue solely due to the Bull Shit which I was subjected to by a certain moderator- " Irish " !

    $...eE..$
     
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  18. $nakeEye$, Mar 4, 2018

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    As unfortunate that it may be -

    It is a fact of reality -

    I sincerely hope and pray that ALL is well with the AC Group -

    Amato, BigBen, 8x8x8, karpatylvuv,and his " other wife " rcsshankar , soserious, tonybugs, goliquid and his lovely wife Alka and the little girl from Manhattan with the " lifts " - Marissa ? -

    And let us NOT forget - AmishDude !

    There are OTHERS whom I apologize for NOT mentioning -

    Getting OLD sucks - however - there are FEW other options !


    However, I , suspect - much to LL's and my chagrin -

    That ALL fell apart with our departure from the " Garden State " -

    Seriously - Give OUR BEST regards to ALL that you have the opportunity to shoot with in AC and elsewhere !

    We really MISS you Guys and Gals !


    $...eE..$
     
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  19. von duck, Mar 5, 2018

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    Apparently "bingo" is not random either. I was at a horse track in New Orleans, and I said something to somebody, about "bingo" and some guy in the crowd inserted, "bingo?, the nuns have that rigged" I thought that was pretty funny. :D
     
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    When one has " GOD " on their side -

    ALL is POSSIBLE !

    $...eE..$
     
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