Dice Control let's take a break from it!

Discussion in 'Advanced Craps' started by superrick, Jan 6, 2017.

  1. TDVegas, Jan 10, 2017

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    Nonsense..I received several reports here that dice setting was no longer permitted at Ballys and Paris. What did I do??? I went down there the next day.

    Asked right from the getgo...."can I set the dice"?

    Sure.

    It was another BS report from the DI community.

    If there is a prior concern....if you have prior knowledge of getting a problem---ask them. If they say yes, no problem, you can shit on the dice for all we care--you have ammo If later during your play they say no. If they don't give you a straight answer affirming---then LEAVE. Don't buy in. GONE.

    Trust me...if you ask "can I count cards"....you're not going to get a yes. If your intent is to count---you know how they feel. WALK.

    If they don't want you setting....they'll let you know just like they'll let you know their position on card counting.

    Same applies for setting. These guys KNOW where they have been hassled for dice setting before. DONT GO IN THERE. This isn't rocket science or brain surgery. WALK. What you guys are doing in casinos that are known to give dice setters grief is totally beyond me. Do you also frequent restaurants that give you shitty service?

    Leave...never to return.
     
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  2. hartzehn22, Jan 10, 2017

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    TDV- I played at both casinos last month and they were allowing die setting. Perhaps it happened to a couple of forum members at Bally's and Paris and that is called HEAT not BS!
     
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  3. TDVegas, Jan 10, 2017

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    If they cleared you to set the dice...then pulled the rug and said no after 15 rolls----THEN WALK, never to return. Cash out. You felt no heat---you LEFT before those flames even touched you.

    Am I speaking in Swahili?

    Leave. Done. Gone. Find a casino where they don't pull the rug and go back on their word. Find a casino that does customer service RIGHT!

    Come to a real casino...Red Rock. I give you my word---you can set to your hearts content. Just don't fumble with the dice for 15 seconds.

    I've asked these guys before when they talk about a casino that hassles dice setters...
    "Why do you go in there then"????

    I get a blank stare.

    If heat is harrassment of any kind...why are you in there? Makes no sense to me. Walk.

    My MGM contact here in Vegas tells me on card counting that they don't even go the preventative or harrassment route anymore...at least here. If they have reason to believe they are dealing with an advantage player....they cut them off from playing or ban them from the property. They no longer want the PR nightmare of harrassment, back room talks or other measures that could open them up to a lawsuit. They simply say goodbye. Smart.
     
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  4. superrick, Jan 10, 2017

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    You are just stupid and don't know anything about the game. You do the math, since you cant do it I will do it for you one last time.

    You being the smart guy that you think you should have a pass line bet and the point the shooter establishes is the 10. So you already had a $5 pass line bet and you take two times odds. Now you have $15 in a total bet on the 10. I place bet the10 for the same $15 the shooter makes the 10 and you are paid $5 for your flat pass line bet and you get the true odds that you think are so great and you are paid $20 for your free odds bet you just won a grand total of $25 gee your the real brain on this board with how many years of dealing craps?

    Now my sucker bet of $15 that you and TDVegas say is so bad now gets paid $27 for the same amount of money that we both bet damn I must be stupid in your eyes right dumb ass?

    You got all of these guys suckered into thinking that you know how to play the game! We can also look at the dumb ass come bet one last time and apply the same math to one of the worst bets you can make. you will get paid $25 for your bet and again I will get paid $27 for my bet and if I had the ten place when you were waiting for that point to get established I would have been pay two times to your one time!

    I love dumb asses like you I see your type on the craps tables every day thinking that you know how to play the game when you don't! So once again how many years did you deal craps?

    And while I'm at it lets get back to the line bet with odds that you say doesn't change the house advantage. Look dum ass you can't take the so-called free odds without having the pass line bet so you are still making one bet when you use the so-called free odds! and the house advantage goes down when you use the so-called free odds! Just as the Wizard said it would, in something that I didn't write but your to stupid to know that what the Wizard wrote was right!

    Between you and TDVeags you don't know how the game should be played and everybody that believes what you write are going down the Yellow Brick Road to Never Land!

    I hope that you and TDVegas enjoyed my little lesson in playing craps for one last time, because there is no hope for either one of you!
     
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  5. $nakeEye$, Jan 10, 2017

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    :)
     
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  6. $nakeEye$, Jan 10, 2017

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  7. twodicebilly, Jan 11, 2017

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  8. twodicebilly, Jan 11, 2017

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    You're ignoring the pass line winners on the come-out where the bet is a 2 to 1 favorite. That will change your results.
    Someone on the forum should run a sims for pass line + odds against place bets after the come-out.
     
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  10. wonko33, Jan 11, 2017

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    Congratulations, you just compared a "put bet" with odds to a place bet. Go read more math books, you most likely won't understand those either but it will keep you busy
     
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  11. TDVegas, Jan 11, 2017

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    He will never understand. We've given up.
     
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  12. TDVegas, Jan 11, 2017

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    You have friends?....LOL. Impossible.

    Or people that just tolerate your presence for a few minutes until they can find the exit door? Hard to believe anyone would put up with you for more than a minute or two. Understandable why you were excluded from the ACA.

    Seems your friends Scoblete and Dominator are on good terms:confused:...Maybe we can all hook up for a little pow wow? Ask Dom to bring the 51K..I'll be happy to forward it to Frank. Sure, sure..you give Frank a call.
    Do us a favor though...they have standards at Red Rock and I'm known there. If my casino host saw you driving up in this, he would cut me off.:(

    Leave this thing at home...call a cab or hitch a ride or something.:eek:

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  13. random_roller, Jan 11, 2017

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    What is the issue you are trying to frame?

    Edit: Oops, wrong thread. Disregard.
     
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    that's funny, when I read snakeeyes post, I remember reading somewhere someone complained that the dominator took 51 thousand dollars somehow or another. and you posted the remarks.
     
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    Yup. He stiffed Scoblete for it via credit card spending at the GTC company.
     
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  17. TDVegas, Jan 11, 2017

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    OK...I would too.
    Personal preference. Fine with that.
    Well...like a restaurant or any business, I would avoid ANY that apply "heat"...aka harassment. Seems like a no brainer to me. Fatty Steak? Gone. Rude waiter? Gone. Employee not holding to their word "you're ok to set"?...Gone. Yes actually means no? Gone.

    But, hey...that's me. To each his own. I'd never subject myself to any harassment on any level....casino or otherwise.
     
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  18. James Hall, Jan 11, 2017

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    the math doesn't take into account the advantages and disadvantages
    the scum I mean come bet REALLY REALLY sucks by comparison
    all you guys who really want to learn to win
    the come bet is a bet people who play to LOSE LESS or BREAK EVEN
    every number has to be hit twice to win one bet
    do the math on that
    THE COME BET SUCKS
     
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  19. James Hall, Jan 11, 2017

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    Well TDV Liman and Fred P just got back from Vegas , went with Parker and Leon and met up with Tom and Guy
    This was one of the best trips we have had in a long time
    Guy had the best roll of his career , Parker was standing behind him talking to him , telling him to take his time and not to get in a hurry
    Guy was so excited he would forget his press , after a bit the dealer would start reminding him , then he would just do the press
    the dealer would look at him for approval , Guy would look at Parker and Parker would nod
    after a bit Guy heard Parker pull down to one unit , Guy did the same Tom pulled off altogether ,so did I and Leon pulled everything but the 6 and 8
    BAM Guy 7nd out , other players were tipping Guy , he must have gotten a couple hundred dollars in tips some of the players were even making bets for Guy
    that started because Guy lost a $5 hard 6 , I threw $5 to the box and said play the hard 6 for the shooter
    That started about everybody betting for him , one way or the other

    We have no idea how much the dealers made but it was a bunch every body was excited and betting for them
    Guy and Tom are probably going back next Sunday
    I had 2 good rolls back to back
    IT PAYS TO PRACTICE
     
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  20. James Hall, Jan 11, 2017

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    THE CASINOS WILL NEVER ACKNOWLEDGE IT , if they did everybody would be signing up for lessons , they want to
    KEEP IT A SECRET
     
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