Dice Control let's take a break from it!

Discussion in 'Advanced Craps' started by superrick, Jan 6, 2017.

  1. James Hall, Jan 9, 2017

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    Nope the guys in Vegas today are from Mesa
    the guys I was going to come with are Parker and Leon , they fly over from Texas and then we go to Vegas
    Parker couldn't make it
    so as I said just mail me the prize
     
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  2. James Hall, Jan 9, 2017

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    Tom and Guy make it more than that but the mostly go to Laughlin
    they have a table there that has the same bounce characteristic as my table and Tom's
    so they do well there , they have a couple of tables in Vegas they do well on
    they came by last night for a tune up
    they will do well
     
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  3. TDVegas, Jan 9, 2017

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    Hmmmmmm.....
     
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  4. twodicebilly, Jan 10, 2017

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  5. James Hall, Jan 10, 2017

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    well guess who just showed up ,, yep , Parker and company , so I will be out for a period of time
    so beat up on somebody else till I get back
     
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  6. TDVegas, Jan 10, 2017

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    Take pictures...
    Ya know...real ones.
     
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  7. James Hall, Jan 10, 2017

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    we are taking off in a few minutes so I will make this quick
    What I have posted were real ones , because you and the other
    chunker / random players have no real comprehension of what a win is ,it's beyond your comprehension
    to you and them anything over $90 enters into the realm of BS
    If you recall the first couple things I posted on here were met with hostility from you
    and of course you are always the first
    The picture was real the win was real
    I set that up to draw you into your usual attack mode
    I shared that plan with others on this forum before I ever did it
    and true to nature you were as usual the very first
    I wanted to see how many would attack and how serious the attack would be
    it actually was not nearly as serious as I thought it would be
    but it did draw out EVERY CHUNKER on this foru
    and it wound up exactly as we had anticipated
    There is still more to this and I am a bit surprised you haven't tumbled
    rather disappointing actually , you guys are not nearly as smart as you think you are
    I was going to divulge the whole thing but one of the guys on this forum said
    LET THEM STEW
    the funniest part was some genies said I scrubbed the "MEGA DATA or METADATA " whatever that is
    you guts were scrambling like a bunch of hyenas on a dead carcass
    we got a great laugh from it , I am still laughing
    the chips were real the win was real and you have trouble with it because it dwarfs
    your little nickle dime wins
    Parker said , "IT'S LIKE THESE GUYS HAVE NEVER SEEN ANY MONEY"
    I TOLD HIM , "TO SOME OF THESE GUYS IT'S A LOT OF MONEY"
    WELL WE ARE OFF
    talk to you later
     
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  8. wonko33, Jan 10, 2017

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    do you believe your own bullshit? When you repeat it over and over does it become true to you?

    Anyway hope you and your friends break the bank, better in the pockets of anybody else than the casino's
     
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  9. TDVegas, Jan 10, 2017

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    Well, I can only offer this tidbit....and there are probably more incidents like this. This was one of your posts and might be indicative of your issues at the tables and why you get "shit" sometimes....Now this is one small incident but it does show that you seem to be of the opinion that you are entitled to "direct traffic"...

    You see...these dealers really aren't interested in hearing you wanting to give directions on where other gamblers move or place their chips. This reeks of Howard RR crap.
    Please...no way to hit the 4 feet long back wall? If I was the dealer I would have said..."just toss the dice" under my breath.
    Once again...stopping play to make inquires about people moving their chips for you or their position on the table? The dealer was right...once again, probably under his breath---"toss the F'n dice fer cryin out loud and stop holding up the game---we wait long enough for you to set the dice as it is".

    Again, I don't always know what is happening on these tables and I'm sure there are cranky dealers (AND cranky players) from time to time...but I do know you will not endear yourself to a crew if you start trying to dictate to them where others place their bets, their elbows, where they stand, do they move, etc. etc....I mean who are you, master of ceremonies? The dealers aren't interested in your demands or getting into arguments. Pick up the dice, don't take too long, toss em, hit the back wall...you'll be fine.

    Who knows what other incidents similar to this that you have had. Then I understand what heat is or in your words "get shit". There was another one I picked up on the WofV forum that I'll also call questionable complaining.

    These little anecdotes give me a clearer understanding of where "heat" is emanating from...I'm satisfied in many cases these are self inflicted problems. Do Rick and $nakeCrie$ pull this stuff too...?

    the crew isn't going to put up with a player playing traffic cop with other players chips...jeez.
     
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  10. Liman

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    di shooters code, what happens at the tables stays at the tables.
    has anyone here but me noticed that all these self claimed experts on strategy, di theory, money management systems, they only win when they are alone or with other "close" gambling buddies.
    oh, wait, they cant win all the time. but they never win when with anyone but themselves or their gambling buddies.
    Tack on that most of them are somewhat connected to or affiliated or promote one online advertiser, regardless, school, teacher, gadget manufacturer, etc.

    so no one else finds any of this strange?

    Ive put out every casino Ive been to in the last what, 2-3 years here, with hopes that only one of them would show me how they win and meet me somewhere.
    oh, wait, I know, they don't go where I go, only to unknown secretive special tables.
    Yeah, I got that also.

    Because every DI shooter Ive ever met, from here or elsewhere, Ive stood with and rooted them on only so I can see something I didn't think was possible, but alas, none have showed me anything worth posting.

    but I know, they hit hard way after hardway, parlaying it up to 5 grand, firebets galore, all tall and all small 5 times a session.

    its a glorious world, that of a di shooter, I cant figure out why not one Ive met bet anymore than I did. Its puzzling.

    oh wait, don't want to bring heat to themselves, by cleaning out casinos.

    funny, hall didn't have a problem posting a picture of 25 thousand dollars worth of chips, he not only posts where he won it, he uses his real name, and when he won it, so I doubt hes afraid of any heat except for the mesa summers.

    this stuff is getting out of control.
     
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    Amen!
    Also, do you notice that JH's minions are always the ones playing in the real world, he's never there?
    " Go forth and teach ye all nations" sayeth Lord James.
     
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  12. twodicebilly, Jan 10, 2017

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    TDV


    You really must have felt stupid about acting like
    some one that actually works on their shot..

    You really went of your rocker......

    It is apparent you have never played with me, because
    if you have you would see that at the table I am very
    respectful of all players as well as the crew. I never ask
    anyone to move their chips, in fact some of the best
    rolls I have ever had were when the chip on the table
    gave little area to land the dice. I have never asked
    anyone to move so I could get my spot to shoot. I have
    never responded harshly to heat I have taken at a table
    the very most I would or have ever said was that "i
    believe I am throwing a permitted shot, but in the
    end it is their table and their casino.. so that is it.

    The goofy thing you are talking about, and I must add you
    had to do some looking to find that report about one night
    in green Bay ( I must add I appreciate your attention
    to that" was unusual because the player at the end of
    the table had been making money and she was playing
    I think with her son and when I looked up they both
    had very large don't bets and then placed their odds
    to the side of the don't bets but back a little to make it
    harder to get the dice to back wall. This was not
    an accident....I did mention to that to the dealer who
    I know and he indicated to me what they did was not
    at all nice and he would have said something but felt he
    could not so that was the end of that

    Now TDV if you feel what they did was an appropriate
    action at the table.. that is fine with me.... I actually feel
    it would fit the way you react on here....

    But once again your lack of actual experience of table
    time with any of us makes you the last person in the
    world to comment on it.

    twodicebilly
     
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  13. Liman

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    I don't remember 100% what shithole casino I was in, must have been around 1980 or 81, right before I had kids, when we used to frequent vegas a lot.
    I believe it was silver slipper, south of stardust on the same side of the strip, I was shooting at a 2 dollar game, and at the other end of the table was a what I thought was a woman from texas, she had on a cowboy hat and a cowgirl style shirt.
    She had huge, I mean huge, boobs(maybe it is true, everything is bigger in texas)
    I mean, she could have been from Arizona, Oklahoma, I didn't know what kind of accent she had......but I threw and the one die bounced up right into her cleavage.
    the die was lost, it was a huge cleavage and she was showing it all to everyone.
    she said to me, (don't recall her exact words except for baby doll), "you can bounce them off my titties all night long baby doll as long as you give me some nines! come on baby doll, gimme a nine-a!
    is that like hitting someones chips? or something obstructing a throw?
    unfortunately, her face looked like someone hit it with a bag of nickels, like she fell off the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down, but all the male players and dealers were digging her girls.
    I remember that night, it was the night I won 350 dollars on my first way ticket on keno, the cocktail waitress showed me how to play a few ways on one ticket

    people mentioning things in the way, I just remembered that night.

    I miss all those little shit dump casinos where one still got treated like royalty.
     
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  14. HornHiYo, Jan 10, 2017

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    Ah those were the days. I especially miss the easy in and out of the smaller casinos and the superior gaming conditions. The mafia was far more willing to share a small piece of action than corporate is willing to share today.
     
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  15. HornHiYo, Jan 10, 2017

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    Awe that ain't nothing. I've seen a dark side player not only put chips in the landing zone hoping to change right side results but he even bumped the table as the dice landed. Once so hard he got tapped out of the game. I figure he was a losing right side DI gone bad. He wasn't a winning dark side player this day either.
     
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  16. twodicebilly, Jan 10, 2017

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  17. twodicebilly, Jan 10, 2017

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    tdv

    Really sorry I forgot to ask about the this DI stuff.

    Now are you going to go up to the table and say hey I
    set the dice, I have a table and how and since I get
    hasseled so much I just want to dicuss this before I start.

    Or with the throw you have practiced for years are you just
    going to play and they surely can see how good you are.

    If I were you I would ask first... because after they see you
    roll the jig is up.

    I am sure you will use the GTC toss... and remember as you
    play you talk about Frank and Dom ...

    good luck with this

    tdb
     
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  18. hartzehn22, Jan 10, 2017

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    TDV- Who in their right mind asks if they can set the die while playing in a live casino??!?!? You either set the die or or you don't. You never ask if you can do it.
     
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  19. hartzehn22, Jan 10, 2017

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    TDV- really- are their any casinos in Vegas that don't allow you to set the die? The question whether you would ask to set the die or not is a mute point. It just never comes up, DI's just do it brother. You never ever ask about die setting.......and when the heat starts you shoot through it or you eventually just cash out if the heat is too hot or not worth the fight.
     
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  20. TDVegas, Jan 10, 2017

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    See how good you are?

    How are they making that determination you are "good"? There is no casino...none, even on record whatsoever acknowledging dice influence as a skill. How are they calling you "good"? If you know of one and you have something beyond your story....let us know. Any media article will do..similar to what we see on card counting. Just one casino expressing concern over dice influence. Any one. Just don't give me a story..."the time I was in Bumbletown...."

    What!!!?? Dom the Dominator---last seen in the sports books here in Vegas trying to scrounge up money from acquaintances so he can play craps. That's the guy you are using as an example of casino fear??? Dom the Dominator??!!! ROFL..

    Are ya nuts?
     
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