Dice classes Return On Investment

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  1. Dave G Ct, Dec 29, 2016

    Dave G Ct

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    Then go view another thread.No one is keeping you here.
    TD - that is what I said- where is that video showing what a successful toss looks like? Where are the testimonials?
     
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  2. TDVegas, Dec 29, 2016

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    I've never even seen a video version of dice influence. I've seen toss technique. I've seen setting technique. I've heard talk about setting this way for that outcome....but....

    I've never seen an actual demonstration of someone saying...."Now I will roll an extra ( )....over the next 36 rolls" or "now I will show less 7's....over the next 36 rolls".

    Then do it.

    It's a remarkable business plan. You need no evidence that it works to sell it. Isn't this how snake oil came about?
     
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  3. gargoil, Dec 29, 2016

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    That's what I said a few days ago. He is here just to stir up troubles. He did the same thing on the other forum and was shown the door. He says he stopped posting but that's not true. He was shown the door.

    I guarantee you there will be many threads like this full of nonsense.

    It is a shame what this forum has come to. There are good information to be read but by the time you weed thru the crap to get to it your head hurts.
     
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  4. HornHiYo, Dec 29, 2016

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    Doing that would kill the golden goose! Only during a long random walk would any "expert" be able to do that.
    The classes and practice sessions are all about throwing and betting as prescribed by the expert; never a session on consistently beating random.
    The assumption is throwing as prescribed will beat random rollers and every now and then it does better than everyone else at the table. Just as often as everyone else at the table beats the prescribed toss.
     
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  5. Edward-ky, Dec 29, 2016

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    Dave does this mean you have changed your view on DI. Or is this just because you and the heavy board are at odds. Either way though in my opinion makes you look bad either way. Just like others have said I believe let it go and worry about positive discussions on craps. Just trying to give some constructive criticism on this. Although it is a free world and forum so you are free to speak your mind on anything you want.
     
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    very frustrated are you dave?

    your nonsense threads, its quite clear to me, heavy has succeeded and he BEAT you big time.
    You are here, spewing garbage constantly lately complaining about or attacking something on that board, and I have no clue, since I don't go on any other board, but from the tone of your posts, its 100% clear, you are heavys bitch.

    Kudos to heavy, hes driving dave nutso.
     
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  7. Dave G Ct, Dec 29, 2016

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    No I shoot UH with the 2-V and 3-V and have done well.I do know throwing true on axis where the dice stay on axis the whole time occurs very infrequently.The sets I use are on axis sets.They work buI could not give you a scientific answer.Maybe Linaway can.
     
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  8. tabletop123, Dec 29, 2016

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    Lately, Dave has been attacking everyone! Now, I do find humor in teasing Dave, & his Mentor (Mad Professor), but it's ALL IN FUN!

    However, Dave is DEAD SERIOUS about "Those" that he attacks! What Dave does NOT realize is that it is GOOD to be ostracized from a Group of people that are GungHo about Dice Influencing.

    It is always nice to get a opposing point of view, concerning Dice Influencing! I still believe in "Influence", but NOT to the extent of the guys on the "Other" forums!

    Not wise to trash, or disrespect someone, JUST BECAUSE they have a different point of view!

    A very few will be able to influence the dice, while a Shitload will fail! The very few that WILL be able to succeed will be so small, as to not even consider!

    I believe the consensus was 3%? I think it's more like 0.5%, & that is ONLY under the most favorable of conditions!

    The truth hurts!
     
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  9. Dave G Ct, Dec 29, 2016

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    I really have not posted that much on Heavy' s board and when I did It was about my toss or success I had at the casino.When I got insulted by the moderator I told him off and never planned to go back.Them kicking me off means nothing.So they are in the back view mirror- I am on a great run- could care less.Have I hit them hard? Perhaps
     
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  10. Dave G Ct, Dec 29, 2016

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    Going against you and DeMango is fun.The bad actors- I can deal with them
     
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  11. HornHiYo, Dec 29, 2016

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    When you decide to slide down the slippery slop you pick really good ones. Now you'll have Liman really pissed off after calling him Linaway!
     
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  12. gargoil, Dec 29, 2016

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    Sorry to burst your bubble there Top but your facts are wrong. Dave wasn't trashed or disrespected because he had opposing views. He was kicked out because he was two faced. He would talk about DI on the other forum and ask questions but started talking bad about the same people that were trying to help him. Irish called him out on it and his access was revoked.

    You say it's not good to trash or disrespect others because they have a different point of view? Well that's exactly what he is doing here and now. Since he no longer agrees with Heavy he is doing more then thrashing.

    Take it for what it's worth.
     
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  13. HornHiYo, Dec 29, 2016

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    The Short Bus Crew should welcome another Heavy Basher. He may have earned extra points for getting 'ol Heavy to post here. That's gotta be worth something to the crew. Maybe special mention at the next ACA All-Business, No-Hype, Pure Bull session.
     
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  14. gargoil, Dec 29, 2016

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    No one should be bashing anyone. We are here to talk about craps and how to take money off the tables.

    Super Dave is doing exactly what I told you he will do. Stir shit up and sit back to watch the show He wants us to do exactly what we are doing and everyone is feeding into it. Same kind of shit he tried on the other forum too.
     
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  15. Dave G Ct, Dec 29, 2016

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    I meant Linaway
     
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    That's right, that is what you get with any of his posts. That is why his new name is 0
     
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  17. HornHiYo, Dec 29, 2016

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    Keep your safety vest on and watch out for a short bus when crossing the road.

     
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  18. tabletop123, Dec 29, 2016

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    Wrong! I was speaking in terms of DAVE trashing others JUST because THEY have a different point of view! This is why I have stated that this "Camp", Groups" "partner" bullshit, ain't helping people to beat the tables! BELIEVE in YOURSELF, & stop idolizing these "Guru's" that are just mere mortals!

    You've simply got to develop a good toss, bankroll to withstand the draw downs, not bet on every person that picks up the dice, stick to the lowest House Edge bets, & get your ass on down to the Cashier's cage!

    The difficult part is "Sticking to your guns", & NOT going on tilt! Not an easy task, most times!
     
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  19. Edward-ky, Dec 29, 2016

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    I figure from a business standpoint wouldn't it be wise to post on every board that would allow it. If the goal was to obtain more business I would think it would be wise to try to obtain new business. Or when you can't boot people who disagree with what you do, it is not enjoyable I guess.
     
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  20. superrick, Dec 29, 2016

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    Well, that's not true, I've said many times to take Heavy's class if that is what turns you and have put links up when he was having classes!

    Now, for the real Bashing if you call putting up slow-motion videos of what happens when the dice hits the tables bashing I don't know what to tell you. If you say telling everybody that someone is writing nothing but fiction I don't know what to tell you!

    Edward-ky, there are no slow-motion videos out there that show that anybody can control the dice and there never will be. If you go out and look at any videos the on-axis guys put out there that have a school you will never see what just happened when the dice hit the tables!
     
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