DI Setting- 2 approaches

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  1. The Midnight Skulker, Nov 8, 2016

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    I agree. With apologies to Damon Runyon: "The race is not always to the swift, the battle to the strong, nor the advantage to the DI, but that's the way to bet it."

    Here is my original comment.
    I gather that dedicated DIs practice to the point of not having to think about their toss mechanics, developing muscle memory IOW. By "choking" I was referring to overriding this muscle memory by overthinking the toss instead of "just doing it".

    I have also assumed that during a hand DIs use some kind of winning progression with "house money". As more money is put at risk I would imagine the fear of losing would increase, especially if the ratio of profit to risk is increasing (absolute profit notwithstanding). Hence my suggestion to increase this ratio (by taking some money off the table) at predetermined points in one's progression thereby overriding Kelly instead of muscle memory.
     
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  2. TDVegas, Nov 8, 2016

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    Whatever the differences between DI and RR's, I think we can all (all?) agree that no one is making their living on the craps table and no one is relying on the craps table for regular income (for ex. "my rent (car payment, lease) is due tomorrow, gotta get to the casino today")

    Found money, in a sense...when it happens.
     
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  3. James Hall, Nov 8, 2016

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    very good post , good advice to us all
    keep it up
     
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  4. James Hall, Nov 8, 2016

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    not all
     
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  5. James Hall, Nov 8, 2016

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    TD likes your post go figure right
    Negative people stick together trying to drag everyone down to their level
    LTWOQ
     
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  6. TDVegas, Nov 8, 2016

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    As I said before James. I'm in Vegas. I see what's going on with craps play all the time. I see the regulars. You are in your basement with the Mesa Mafia playing fake craps. I'm on the front line. Ground Zero. If not on the bubble, I'll check out and watch the "real" (LOL) tables. I see the "real" action---whether it be 9am---12pm---3pm---7pm---10pm---12am. I've seen setters and non setters alike until I'm blue.

    If there was a choice to comment on what's happening in the casinos with the game...you or me? Only a "reasonable idiot";) would side with the guy buried deep in a bunker basement, in a state not even offering the game, who rarely (if ever?) actually plays---other than....Harrrah's New Mexico?:confused:

    You guys probably pick up your play chips after bad rolls on the practice table ("guys, lets start over")....Sorry, there are no do-overs in Vegas, James.

    Trust me (just got a shiver)...people win. People lose. All the time...but no one is treating the craps table in the manner you have espoused here...play date craps in your basement aside, of course. You can sing this tune until the livestock get back in the barn. But I digress...it's a WONDERFUL game. Craps.

    Real live craps, James...sometimes a couple/few times a week. I see. You do not. You can not. Logistics, for one. Reality for another.

    There is a reason I am known as "last man standing"....;)
    You and the Mesa Mafia boys are checking the car floor for spare change for gas home and I'm still playing (AND winning:p)

    Next month I will be collating my 2016 win/loss data...and it's looking pretty good. See what 1.41% and some luck can do?:D

    cue James Hall..."you're lying"!!....LOL.

    Craps...I love this game!:D
    Don't you?

    It's a beauty of a day here in Vegas...going to enjoy lunch outdoors at Wolfgangs. I'm sensing a Mesquite burger and a pumpkin ale. Bye.
     
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  7. James Hall, Nov 8, 2016

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    BS total BS you don't love the game you hate it
    you can't win and you can't quit
    you are qualified to comment on craps when you don't play
    you pretend to play on the pretend game
    at least you are smart in one regard
    you can limit your losses to $1

    but the major point is your constant attack on people who win , you can't stand to see
    posts that claim a win , when you see those you immediately go on the attack
    you remind me of the story about the crabs in a bucket
    "if one tries to escape by crawling out of the bucket the others will pull him back"
    that is the way you are with people on the forum who claim a win or ask about ways to win
    PULL THEM BACK INTO THE BUCKET, but for gawd sake drag them back down to your level
    "THE CRAB"
     
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  8. James Hall, Nov 8, 2016

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    try to pull the winners back into the bucket , pull people back who are trying to learn ,pull them back down to your level ??
    are you proud you do that ?
     
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  9. TDVegas, Nov 10, 2016

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    Huh?....continue to play a game I hate? :confused:. Why would I do that?
    Pretty sure I will be "net positive" this year (my ode to Davey). Quit?! Why would I quit a game I enjoy playing??
    Are you speaking to a mirror?
    Attack people who win?...whoa there. Generally question (your word "attack") the methods claimed for winning as it relates to DI...I consider it luck, James, not DI. I have offered MANY hearty "well done" to those who have won....I just won't attribute that win to DI. You can though.

    When you constantly attribute absolutes to me like "attack"....."hate the game"...."you can't win" (Ever?)..."can't quit"....You are doing what Superrick did in attributing to me "TDV says nobody can win". Rick likes to repeat that lie..over and over.

    You should ask Rick how he's doing on the Fire Bet....
    Not too good.:(

    You also look foolish by applying these hardline terms to me when I haven't expressed these ideas, words or thoughts.

    Now I know you have this idea that there is this group of players (many of them) out there relieving the casino of chips with their advantage craps play, doing so regularly, making a living and winning so often that they don't know what to do with the money (25K)---That's fine. I disagree. But for gawds sake we have been back and forth on this so many times and you can't provide me any evidence.

    Many here have a healthy, realistic understanding of the game. I'm sorry you don't fall within that group...but I am glad that you enjoy the game.
     
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  10. betwthelines, Nov 11, 2016

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    once again, davey, WTF post are you referring to?!?

    yet again i invite you to check out that little "reply" verb in the lower right of EVERY post on this forum...i really think that you should know that confusion & misunderstanding of MANY of your posts is commonplace due to your lack of use of this useful function...

    i have spent the last 5 minutes (geez, dumb ol' me) scrolling this thread trying to figure out just which "accolade" i committed now...gave up trying...yes, while we disagree about the nature of bank craps, i have given you accolades on a fair number of posts since you say some interesting things sometimes & curious as to just which one this is...

    further g. geist especially has this curious fascination with this "poetry" thing (was downright flabbergasted by its first appearance---quite ironically by mr james hall) and while s/he is sometimes absent for months atta time, lately s/he has been around with some frequency, suspect s/he is lurking here now even (frankly i never actually know) and i know s/he would be interested in just wtf this "flowery" language is...

    "underhanded", davey? really? i don't think so...show me the post!

    take my implorations fwiw, please.

    tom p
    -g. geist: ah so...i are here, honorable mr tlacy...
    --tom p: o, shut the bleep up!
    ---g. geist: our davey is more perceptive than the average bear, methinks
    ----tom p: o? how's that?
    -----g. geist: he nailed that underhanded thing...
    ------tom p: but...but...but I am not underhanded!
    -------g. geist: uh huh...yeah...right...
     
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  11. Dave G Ct, Nov 11, 2016

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    I was referring to your agreeing with Gargoil only to spring a trap door at the end of your post.
    Accolades- Yes I will take them 24/7
     
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  12. James Hall, Nov 11, 2016

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    between is chewing everybody out , whats with that?
     
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