DI 's who need to step it up

Discussion in 'Dice Influencing' started by Dave G Ct, Nov 2, 2016.

  1. TDVegas, Nov 4, 2016

    TDVegas

    TDVegas Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2014
    Messages:
    18,023
    Likes Received:
    12,448
    Even if we took off 1 roll from the "only count come out roll points"....how about a long term 7.4 SRR...?
     
    #61
  2. gargoil, Nov 4, 2016

    gargoil

    gargoil Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2013
    Messages:
    1,187
    Likes Received:
    618
    Ah Davy boy. I can always count on you to make a fool of yourself. Just because you can piss on paper doesn't make you a painter. You think by setting the dice and throwing that makes you a DI? Based on your toss video, you are just another dice chucker. You play on the $5.00 dollar tables with a $100.00 dollar buy in and get overly excited when you win $75.00 dollars. Yet you have a need to come on this board and brag of your accomplishments (fire bets and 45 rolls). Yea that is the adult way of approaching DI. That's why you are still living in your mother's attic throwing into a shoe box. I have stated before and will say it again. You have NO FREAKING CLUE what DI is. All you do is come on this board and start stupid thread that end up with useless content. The shift supervisor asks you how your game is going? What game? Listen there is nothing wrong with playing on $5.00 dollar tables and making a few bucks every now and them. But don't call yourself a DI and make claims your ass can't back up. If you truly were a DI, you would be playing like one.

    Yes I know I should not insult people like that but you talk a big game and that's all you do. You can question what I do, make fun at it, I don't care. At the end of the day each of us will look at themselves in the mirror and we ALL know who is acting and who is real. That goes to ANYONE on this forum. The bottom line is that if you TRULY are a DI, you would have the confidence to put your money where your mouth is at the tables. You're a big man behind the keyboard Davy boy. Too bad you're nothing when it comes to DI.
     
    #62
  3. gargoil, Nov 4, 2016

    gargoil

    gargoil Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2013
    Messages:
    1,187
    Likes Received:
    618
    The potential gain is worth the cost if the amount wagered is applicable. Listen we all hear the hero stories (Davy boy) on how talented they are in DI playing on $5.00 dollar tables. However if one is truly confident and play on black chip tables or above, then the $$$ gained short term is worth the cost. See some folks claim DI when they practice at home but have no confidence in it at the casino. That's why you find them on the $5.00 dollar tables.

    Listen I have no problem with people playing 5.00 dollar tables. I do have a problem when they make great posts about their DI skills and then state they play on 5.00 tables. It's like Richard Petty bragging about his driving skills while driving in the derby races.
     
    #63
  4. Dave G Ct, Nov 4, 2016

    Dave G Ct

    Dave G Ct Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2015
    Messages:
    7,644
    Likes Received:
    1,175
    Gender:
    Male
    Gee Gargoil let us see your toss and let the forum judge.You are an elitist who gets bent out of shape if someone includes your name in a post.Can we all spell insecure- shallow- and of course irrelevant.Here on this board you have no lemmings to gang up on me.lol.Out hereby yourself you look like a joke.Players like TD & OAP may have a different point of view but they are consistent Lackeys like you and your jealous Lucy's cannot stand another voice.You nay play bigger but you are hardly in my league Take a hike.
     
    #64
  5. TDVegas, Nov 4, 2016

    TDVegas

    TDVegas Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2014
    Messages:
    18,023
    Likes Received:
    12,448
    Again, this is supposition and guesswork. There is NO standard for what constitutes a "good DI" from a bad one. If there was some science to the form of toss technique...and it actually fucking worked to advantage---the game of craps would collapse. All the schools would teach ONE technique. The caveat being it HAS to work. That is opinion.

    The reality is I could do my ballerina toss and have just as much credibility (or lack of) on whether that works as opposed to Mr. Smooth Move's fluid toss.

    Nothing has been proven. Nothing is known beyond anecdotal. Opinion.

    At least in golf and tennis we have historical data that Tiger Woods swing technique and Roger Federer's backhand technique ACTUALLY work. Their combined net worth is about 400 million.

    Saying Daves toss is shit...is like him saying your toss is shit. There's no benchmark for DI other than a personal claim.
     
    #65
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2016

  6. Liman

    Liman Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2013
    Messages:
    9,158
    Likes Received:
    8,639
    Im no dice setter, but I call my shot the "hurricane" shot.
    they knock down anything in their path and move with tremendous speed.
     
    #66
  7. Dave G Ct, Nov 4, 2016

    Dave G Ct

    Dave G Ct Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2015
    Messages:
    7,644
    Likes Received:
    1,175
    Gender:
    Male
    TD
    This " hero" when he goes to Vegas he plays on the Strip- why like Larry ( any Mm is good) S deserve to play there with the " right" people.You cannot make this stuff up.Hardly a player one should waste any time on.
     
    #67
  8. Dave G Ct, Nov 4, 2016

    Dave G Ct

    Dave G Ct Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2015
    Messages:
    7,644
    Likes Received:
    1,175
    Gender:
    Male
    Liman
    Guess your toss hits the back wall lol
     
    #68
  9. TDVegas, Nov 4, 2016

    TDVegas

    TDVegas Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2014
    Messages:
    18,023
    Likes Received:
    12,448
    And you are stating you make your living play craps with this plan of action? No job. No regular work. Your living is derived off the craps table? What does "$$$ gained short term" mean?

    Because if what you say is true and one TRULY holds an advantage (+SRR)...then the mathematics of this will provide GUARANTEED income. Coupled with a Kelly strategy...the sky is the limit.

    Green chips
    To black chips
    To purple
    To pumpkins

    Chip color plays NO roll IF the math works. The math becomes the issue....

    Based on dissing Dave and his smaller bets...
    TheDiceMan out here is dissing your $100 wagers...he's on the $500 min table (high limit)

    Where does it end?...or begin for that matter?
    Green means your talented in DI?
    Or black?
     
    #69
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2016
  10. gargoil, Nov 4, 2016

    gargoil

    gargoil Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2013
    Messages:
    1,187
    Likes Received:
    618
    No you will never see a video of my toss on this or any other forum and no I am not an elitist. Here you go bringing up stuff from years ago. Why not try something new? No one is ganging up on you and what do I need to be jealous of? Your shoe box that you use to throw dice in? And you are correct I am not in your league. Again I am not the one out here thumping my chest bragging on anything. You are. I suggest you keep your posts and insults to others on this forum because you are definitely not in my league.
     
    #70
  11. gargoil, Nov 4, 2016

    gargoil

    gargoil Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2013
    Messages:
    1,187
    Likes Received:
    618
    Again you miss the point. There is no such a thing as a good DI versus a bad DI. You either know what you are doing and have confidence to back it up or you don't. I am not saying Dave is a bad DI. What I am saying is that he is NOT A DI. Period. If he was, he would have confidence in his (whatever) game. And yes his toss is shit.
     
    #71
  12. TDVegas, Nov 4, 2016

    TDVegas

    TDVegas Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2014
    Messages:
    18,023
    Likes Received:
    12,448
    You just went on a rant a couple of pages ago about DI players having an attitude of superiority!!!... And then say "you are not in my league".

    It would be nice if you guys practice what you preach.
     
    #72
  13. gargoil, Nov 4, 2016

    gargoil

    gargoil Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2013
    Messages:
    1,187
    Likes Received:
    618
    Nope never made any such remarks and you will NEVER hear me or see me post about SRR or any of that roll tracking nonsense. Inputting into a computer please don't get me started on that. What I am saying (and this is not chest thumping but answering your question) is I have confidence in my game and DI skills and I play on the table with that confidence. No systems, no strategies just me and the dice. Short term gain means I hit the table hard and I walk out. No reason to overstay. I understand you can't comprehend that and think I should make the casino my personal ATM but that's not how it goes.
     
    #73
  14. TDVegas, Nov 4, 2016

    TDVegas

    TDVegas Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2014
    Messages:
    18,023
    Likes Received:
    12,448
    So you have ZERO mathematical basis to declare yourself a DI??
    You claim it's simply based on what then?
     
    #74
  15. gargoil, Nov 4, 2016

    gargoil

    gargoil Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2013
    Messages:
    1,187
    Likes Received:
    618
    Saying I am not in your league is not an attitude of superiority. It's the truth. The fact is Dave YOU ARE NOT A DI. I know it, you know it (but won't admit it) and others on the forum know it. If you simply come on the forum and say "Hey I like playing craps and I play on $5.00 dollar tables and sometimes I do good" then NO ONE will have a problem with you. But you are here forcing DI down people's throats as if you know what the hell you are talking about. YOU HAVE NO CLUE.
     
    #75
  16. TDVegas, Nov 4, 2016

    TDVegas

    TDVegas Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2014
    Messages:
    18,023
    Likes Received:
    12,448
    LOL...that's effed up.
     
    #76
  17. gargoil, Nov 4, 2016

    gargoil

    gargoil Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2013
    Messages:
    1,187
    Likes Received:
    618
    Math has nothing to do with DI. Not sure why people keep feeding you that on the forum. The problem is that you have been hearing the wrong things about what DI is and that's why you go after people. Because it doesn't make sense to you. As to what my claim is based on well that's just for me. It's none of yours or anyone else business. I am not trying to sell you anything, I am not trying to convince you of anything. I am not trying to degrade or insult your game or how you play regardless of what Davy boy says. All I can tell you is that my claim has a lot to do with my confidence. You can believe me or call me a liar. I don't care either way. I will not lose any sleep over it.

    You don't come on this board bragging about "YOUR GAME". You are on here telling folks how it is and that's fine with that. That's all you know and that's okay. Others on this forum feel the need to convert you as if you are doing something wrong. I don't see it that way.
     
    #77
  18. TDVegas, Nov 4, 2016

    TDVegas

    TDVegas Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2014
    Messages:
    18,023
    Likes Received:
    12,448
    Then you really have NO basis for declaring yourself a DI...at least not a numbers basis. Plus, this flies directly in the face of those who say "to know...you must track your data". tdb and Demango chart.

    Your basis is "I am"....not much more.

    That's like a blackjack AP player saying he doesn't actually count cards but calls himself an AP card player anyway.
     
    #78
  19. Dave G Ct, Nov 4, 2016

    Dave G Ct

    Dave G Ct Member

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2015
    Messages:
    7,644
    Likes Received:
    1,175
    Gender:
    Male
    Gargoil
    That 5 point 42 roll hand was on a $15 table.What are you talking about? We have similar beliefs in trusting your shot and not going on the DeMango tracking 16 rolls and going to the computer and coming out with a different set.Look I have always been a high profile poster going back when I posted on JP' s board.Plus I do make my threads entertaining.I am not adverse to different views.Look any half with knows I would not put a bad shot video on line.SR accused me of cherry picking.Do not like it? Well for me a 6 point FB- as well as several 5 pointers and a host of 4 pointers.My shot is fine and I am not trying to convert anyone.But I will say what I think just like anyone else.BTW are you net positive?
     
    #79
  20. gargoil, Nov 4, 2016

    gargoil

    gargoil Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2013
    Messages:
    1,187
    Likes Received:
    618
    Again you are trying to dig up a hole to start an argument. Why do you care what I declare myself to be? How is that affecting how you play craps? If you don't like DI's and don't care for anything they have to say then ignore their posts. If you think I am saying something crazy or unbelievable then don't read it. I don't care about what you say about me. I am trying to be nice and answer your questions.
     
    #80
Reminder: This is the Dice Influencing section.