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Discussion in 'Dice Influencing' started by hartzehn22, Jan 13, 2016.
I know, I referenced that before. So what has changed?
Other than rolling a 7 after you have established all your CBs, should you make the pt, 6, and then roll a 7 on the CO, you lose all your CBs $30.
Not sure what you think about this, but you could make a $50 no10 or no 4, if CO 7 is rolled you win $24, you win the PL $5, you lose all your CBs, $30. If you roll a pt other than your NO bet, just take down the NO bet and continue on your merry way. Yes you could roll the NO bet, lose $50, but there are only 3 ways to make the 4 or 10, 6 ways to roll a 7. The question you are thinking, did I fire 5 shots, or 6. Well do you feel lucky?
LOL! Awesome! I love it! Now back to the darn simulator again!
ah, it didn't click, green valley ranch......funny, recently, I was looking at some rental properties I believe were within walking distance of that casino, or maybe it was another casino near there. I remember the ad mentioning green valley.
when I finally rent something out there, I guess Ill know all the places.
You should have posted your other 20 sec. video. Never seen anyone exhibiting such accuracy. It is something to see. If you don't mind me asking, how long have you been working on that toss?
Thanks for the compliment. This ice tong toss is one of a few different tosses I use depending on the dice and table conditions and location from which I shoot. I have been using/experimenting with different tosses since 2004. For purposes of this video, I decided to make a circle with some chips but I haven't used this practice rig in years and dug it out of storage. I have developed my different tosses primarily during live casino play as this is the best simulation and weeding out a false sense of influence, which I think could occur if all you did was practice at home.
The first ever video I posted on this CrapsForum was back on January 12 (i think that was the date). In that video, I was demonstrating that one could repetitively throw 2 dice and land the dice 3 inches from the practice rig wall. The tape line on the practice rig felt is 3 inches from the wall.
It's been fun shooting dice with my old rig and trying to think up different things I can do to show control of the die. I have noted that in my own analysis of my own rolls, the more control I have over the 2 cubes, the more influence I have with certain die faces showing.
I have no problem with that way of playing the pass line bets, I use to do much the same thing. Later in life, I decided to forego the any craps hedge, opting for the long term expectation of just the pass line at risk with no hedge.
And like you, I only used the any craps at select times, when I felt they served my immediate purpose....continuing a streak of pass line winner parlays. And who knows, I might do it again at some time.
But after looking at the overall expected results, it has been many years since I have hedged the pass line bet with any craps.
Your statement comes very close to the use of a "feeling" where you said "when I felt they served my immediate purpose"...hmmmmm interesting!
No, not a feeling, just a money "value" thing at a given moment. Example, I have parlayed my line bet from $20, to $80, and am letting it go one more time. I might decide to take $10 off the pass line, and bet any craps, and just have $70 on the pass line.
The come out roll is the only consideration here.
With out the craps bet.....I either have $160 with a 7-11......or $0 with a 2-3-12
With the craps bet......I have $140 with a 7-11.....or another $70 bet with the 2-3-12
Not a mathematically correct bet here, but rather a money value decision at the time. It was not something I did all that often, and I do not use it at all in my present play....but I do not totally rule it out at some future point.
Oh, by the way, I do make "feeling" decisions on occasion....just as human as the next craps player.
Have a question for you. With your laser point accuracy toss, do you use a particular dice set, and if so what numbers are you most likely to toss.
Pressit- My dice set will depend on the type of die on the craps table. If the die appear to be biasing towards certain numbers, I will adjust my die set and my toss to what I think the die might give me and bet accordingly.
Two of my favorite die sets are craps set and 2v. Typically I will use the craps set when I'm playing the dark side but this is hard to do when playing with a full table of right sided players. They don't like all the craps and quick PSO.
With the craps set and 2v, I tend to hit more 9's then any other number but 6's are also common with the 2v for me. I will use the 3v and hardway set if I see other DI's on the table using it with some success. I often adjust my die set depending on the conditions.
I will shoot primarily from: SL1, SR1, SL2 or SR2. When the die are particularly biased, I will often resort to shooting from the end of the table -if I shoot at all. My toss can vary and again that depends on what I feel like the die will give me. Variables include: high trajectory minimal back spin loft or lob like throw, low trajectory lots of back spin & increased speed, low trajectory minimal backspin loft or lob like.
I watch other dice setters and or the random shooters and see what numbers are showing to develop my own die set and betting strategy. Trial and error is important to me especially if I suspect bias die.
My preferred position when die and table conditions are very good. SR1 with 2v set or HWS.