Page 56 post #1112 HoleHY posted SRR is the standard measure of how many sevens occur per 'X' number of throws; all throws are counted. Of course some shooters chose to cherry pick which rolls to include and exclude to make their claim to fame. Page 57 Post #1124 James Hall replied OK TDVeguess liked your post so that means he agrees with your statement , of course on the other hand he likes them all regardless how childlike they are. This in essence would indicate that the two of you and , "YOUR LITTLE GROUP" may be laboring under a different conception than we do as it relates to SRR . Evidently from your post you are trying to determine how many 7s you are getting per hand while those of us not of "YOUR LITTLE GROUP" are figuring , "HOW MANY NUMBERS WE ROLL PER SEVEN" I figure how many numbers I roll per 7. You guys then are actually figuring it differently than we do and thus the confusion. It seems that when TDVeguess says an 8 SRR meaning that eight 7s are rolled for each number that comes up he would in fact be correct in saying no one can do that. It would , at the very least , be difficult Since we figure how many numbers we roll between 7s a better Identifier for us would be , "Rolls Per Sevens Ratio (RSR) instead of your standard (SRR) Sevens per Rolls Ratio". I never was comfortable with SRR to begin with because it wasn't what I was interested in charting. I will continue charting my way and call it Rolls Per Sevens Ratio (RSR) but understand that you are more interested in the Sevens Per Rolls figure. It all makes sense now when TDVeguess says nobody can have an 8 SRR (Eight Sevens Per Roll Ratio) . Now maybe we can put that argument to rest. I guess the conclusion is just as I said He is charting what he needs to know figuring his (RSR) How many rolls he gets per 7 while you want him to figure (SRR) 7s per numbers rolled as per HornHy's post. It seems you were not understanding what Billy was charting . So , again we can put this conflict to rest.