DI ers " Too technical?"

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  1. Dave G Ct, May 26, 2019

    Dave G Ct

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    Everybody will toss differently given the same parameters.With that in mind are DI ers trying to be too perfect in developing a successful shot? Let me explain

    You practice your shot while making minute adjustments. Maybe your results are impressive but in live play you tighten up and toss according to an imagined blueprint in your mind and the results are unimpressive.Why?
    I think your toss has to be fluid where you can set the dice and execute your shot as if you are blindfolded. Your toss is more like to mirror each one preceeding it. Get in a groove and light it up!
    In other words quit thinking about how you are supposed to shoot - just do it.
     
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  2. lone irish digit, May 26, 2019

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    You are so correct Mr Dave Guacamole. When the LID was putting on DI exhibitions at many midwest casinos in 2016 he would toss blindfolded with me setting dices to desired set. Eustace would sit on table and make circle with his thumb and pointer finger and the LID would toss dices through Eustace finger. The LID would call out the results before he tossed dices. Needless to say it was a very greatest crowd pleaser. Just ask the Opie and SexShooter personages who witness it in a new Detroit casino.
     
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  3. eagleeye2, May 26, 2019

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    OMG, Just MORE B.S. from LID!!!

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  4. lone irish digit, May 26, 2019

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    How could such personage call my recollection the bull shits. Unlike most casino accounts on this forum of the craps, I provided the evidence of two most senior forum members who will vouch for my account of the LIDs craps tossing exhibitions.

    The Sexshooter is one of the bestest DI in midwest and sidekick of the Opie1 who is founder of the "Strategy" and world class fuzzy math expert.

    If you have the ability to receive PM in your car, I can have these two personage vouch for my story with a PM.
     
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    Yep, More BULL SHIT!!

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  6. James Hall, May 26, 2019

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    Good point , trust to muscle memory.
     
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    Ja, that's right James, muscle memory. Dave should go see "Hans & Franz" and let them "Pump him up". He needs to quit throwing like a "girlie-mahn" :cool:
     
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  8. lone irish digit, May 27, 2019

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    I am sorry to say you have been scammed. There is no such thing as muscle memory, only brain memory. This fact has been proven by my bestest friend Sigmund Freud and his colleague the Supperick personage. Here's a excerpt on muscle memory as a fraud posted by the Supperick a few years ago:


    QUOTE="superrick, post: 85121, member: 8083"]You know Howard I do more then chuckle every time I hear someone calling you the Bunter, for some odd reason the name has stuck nowadays!

    But really I never knew that your muscles had a brain and could remember how to shoot the dice! Isn't it just one more thing to sell being a so-called DI?
    I've had the conversations about muscle memory many times before and have seen it used to sell other things. But with that even said your muscles have no memory. Your brain controls everything you do!

    To be any kind of successful craps player you have to know how to bet the game and when to make bets that will put money in your rack. You could be the luckiest shooter in the world and never make any money at playing craps! It like you Howard, you can have a lucky roll and you walk with hardly any profit! We saw it way to many times when there is a lucky roll happening it's all about what you put in your rack! Let's say you got lucky and had a great roll and when it was all over with you had $200 in your rack and the dumb ass standing next to you that never even played craps before made $3000!

    Evidently nobody ever taught you how to bet, or worst yet a lot of guys wasted their time telling you how to bet the game! You simply need to have major profit on any good roll that someone has. Standing at a table and not betting on the so-called random roller that is having a fifty roll is just plain dumb!

    Your so-called DI schools that teach that kind of behavior are just scam schools![/QUOTE]
     
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  9. Dave G Ct, May 27, 2019

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    Vintage SR,! Jimmy in the building?
     
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  10. James Hall, May 27, 2019

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    This has been debated for years , many times by professional athletes and
    people in various fields of medicine. Many have come to the
    conclusion that the people on opposite sides of
    the controversy had a different definition / view of
    exactly what Muscle Memory is.
     
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  11. TDVegas, May 27, 2019

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    That would be precognition....seeing into the future. Psychic. Frankly, roulette would be my game, not craps. Lottery?
    I guess. It depends on whether you have bets on numbers that are going to roll.
    Again, this is precognition or an awareness that a long roll is going to happen...verses a quick 7 out. That player has the key to casino bankruptcy...or at least a world of hurt.
    Well, that's nothing more than based on how much someone is wagering. If it was 7 out after 7 out....Howard only lost $200. The other guy maybe loses $1,500. It's all relative.
    I don't think anyone disagrees with the idea that you can make good profit on a long roll. Next time someone knows there's going to be a long roll, I am more than willing to give them half my profit. Guaranteed minimum $1,000 to them.
     
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  12. lone irish digit, May 27, 2019

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    you can have a lucky roll and you walk with hardly any profit! We saw it way to many times when there is a lucky roll happening it's all about what you put in your rack.


    Looks like the mostly greatest Supperick has a turd in his pocket too at casino much like the James Hall. Must be DI thing...
     
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  13. James Hall, May 27, 2019

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    That many times is the difference between winning and losing.
    A very large problem for some players is having there bets
    on the wrong box number or numbers.
    We can therefore reduce it to this fact ,
    "To win you must have your be on the number .rolled.
    If you are betting numbers other than
    the number being rolled , you may not win.
    There is a sure way to ensure being on the correct box number
    when it is rolled and it does not require precognition.
     
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  14. Mssthis1, May 27, 2019

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    [/QUOTE]

    At least we know how someone feels about Hall's mantra of only bet on yourself.
     
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  15. James Hall, May 27, 2019

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    At least we know how someone feels about Hall's mantra of only bet on yourself.[/QUOTE]

    I care about only one persons opinion , MINE.
    For the random player , the only difference is he just
    loses on 12 players instead of just one.

    For the skilled and trained DI it's a matter of get the dice win
    money then lose it back plus on 11 or more other players.

    Some craps players like to talk about the math of the game
    that is the math they seem to forget about.
     
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  16. twodicebilly, May 29, 2019

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    james


    they may have a different opinion about what it is....but all the good ones know the
    value of it......except the experts on this board......:):):):)

    that is the basis of my entire game. After years of practice with the shots I use
    I am going to throw them the way I throw them, and that is not going to be
    perfect...I can adjust the location the dice hit the table, but other than that
    it is what it is. So adjusting the sets to fit your shot that day or adjusting where
    your dice land to affect the number of revolutions of the dice which in turn
    can affect the results is one of the few options you have.

    The other is to actually think your playing craps by betting on everyone and every
    roll.....which in my mind is insanity.

    TDB
     
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  17. Mssthis1, May 29, 2019

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    Craps is a unique game where most numbers rolled can be a winner, loser or a push depending on how you bet. You just need to pick the correct bet. If you're winning on your own rolls but losing on all the other shooters, maybe it is your betting practices that need work. If you bet pass side only you're ignoring half the game.
     
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  18. James Hall, May 29, 2019

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    Random players have few options . They are betting on every player
    hoping for variance / luck to show up. The thing they fear is
    not having A BET on the table when that occurs. That is what one
    of the , "GROUP OF INSIDERS" likes to call , "RIGHT PLACE , RIGHT TIME" or
    "Being On The Table When The Good Shooter Shows".
    A very Ify way to play. Some of us prefer to introduce some influence
    over the outcome to experience a better result.
     
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  19. James Hall, May 29, 2019

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    This has been my point the whole time I have been on this forum.
    Probabilities give us some idea of what to expect from random shooter
    to shooter. The prospects overall are not good.
    The best course of action is to bet only on shooters who offer
    the best opportunity for success.
    That opportunity is generally the best with a trained and skilled shooter.
    I personally see NO ADVANTAGE in betting on a shooter who has
    no idea what his possibilities might be.

    Winning money while tossing the dice then losing all or part of it back
    on other shooters may very well be as Billy described it when he said

    "The other is to actually think your playing craps by betting on everyone and every
    roll.....which in my mind is insanity."
     
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  20. Mssthis1, May 29, 2019

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    I can teach you how to win on all shooters but you have to commit to at least 6 sessions. I'll pick you up at the airport.;)
     
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