Craps throwing station

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by Jeff P, Feb 19, 2018.

  1. tabletop123, Feb 22, 2018

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    Well, I should have made that clarification, but ya did it for me. That's correct. You do lose your advantage the longer that you toss the dice. You start missing your target, & your release deteriorates after XYZ number of tosses.

    I'm speaking strictly mechanics. Now, whether there is influence or not is a while nother ball game.

    It's simply difficult to execute the same toss mechanics over prolonged periods.

    Imagine this: A table length pool shit wherein the cue ball, & object ball are 8 feet apart, & you're constantly shooting the SAME shot into the pocket over, & over again.( object ball NOT close to the pocket)
    I'd like to give a golf analogy, but I know NOTHING about golf
    Darts: Imagine a Practictioner trying to "bullseye" the target from 8 ft away, repeatedly.

    Mental fatigue, & loss of focus sets in, & ya begin to falter.

    That's just the way it is. There is no circumvention!
     
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  2. tabletop123, Feb 22, 2018

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    Lol
     
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  3. Edward-ky, Feb 22, 2018

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    But on the same note there are times when you toss sucks at first and adjustments are made and then you sorta hit a groove and have a decent roll. There is not a real good way to prove that a good roll was due to di or if just the way dice bounced that particular time. But at the end of that particular you can choose to believe it was due to di or variance or luck or chance or voodoo. Doesnt matter really what you believe.
     
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  4. James Hall, Feb 22, 2018

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    One thing you do have right is in respect to 1966 I wouldn't change a thing , what Sydney gave me then
    still works just as well as then , the big difference is because there are so many copy cat players
    when we get on the table the suits don't even notice

    Where you blew it was in your dust cloud analogy , the dust cloud doesn't bother me I am so far ahead of it I don't even see it

    The other error , craps hasn't really changed all that much , it is just as beatable now as it was back then . The big change is more people , THINK THEY HAVE A CLUE because of all the books on the game , the books have actually hurt most players because they read all this math stuff
    WHAT ELSE YA GOT?
     
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  5. tabletop123, Feb 22, 2018

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    Yep....I just want to win. If I had to change-up my baseline toss to a "who knows what" toss, & ITS WORKING.....guess which toss I'm gonna be using? Lol
     
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  6. James Hall, Feb 22, 2018

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    Grading success by time played is one way I judge by dollars , I keep score with them .
    I have never understood why anybody would judge anyone's play by how long they were , "GRINDING"
     
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  7. James Hall, Feb 22, 2018

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    That would be great advice for people to give all their kids ,
    "don't screw around trying to learn anything
    common sense and experience is better than any degree you can get" ,
    there are actually people Who believe that
    Another COMMON SENSE THING
    "You don't have to get married , it's just a piece of paper , just SHACK UP"
    Yeah , you're right learning is not all it's cracked up to be
     
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  8. James Hall, Feb 22, 2018

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    read this nothing of any value , typical , "TEDIOUS" negative babel , MOVING ON
     
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  9. James Hall, Feb 22, 2018

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    Stiler response , right out of the , "TEDIOUS VEGAS" play book , no logic
     
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  10. tabletop123, Feb 22, 2018

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    UNCLE!
     
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  11. James Hall, Feb 22, 2018

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    Doesn't matter what you believe , if what you believe is based on opinion you have a point
    based on FACT is another matter
     
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  12. James Hall, Feb 22, 2018

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    That fellow over in Mesa has a cure for all that
    He says most players stay on the table too long , James says ,
    toss till you seven out take a break , keep your shot sharp , once those Mesa guys started to listen
    the began to win and , NOT GIVE IT BACK BETTING ON EVERYBODY ON THE TABLE
    IMAGINE THAT
     
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  13. tabletop123, Feb 22, 2018

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    James, my niece lives in Phoenix, which is roughly 30 minutes away from Mesa. When I visit her, I'll be sure to ping ya so that I TOO can learn the "Mesa way to success" from you, & the Mesa gang.

    I want to play craps for a living & according to what you've posted about the Mesa gang....CERTAINLY at least one of the Talented bunch plays craps for a living.
    I will commit to a minimum of 6 lessons, so that I can learn how to turn $42 into $5,000, & how to only visit the Casinos once a year, & pay all of my bills off of that one visit.
    The way that YOU toss the dice.....I can't wait to get a tune-up from ya.

    I am most certain that your schedule is probably full, & that you're booked solid until the fall of 2020!
    If it's not a bother, please pencil me in for the month of October, 2020!
     
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  14. tabletop123, Feb 22, 2018

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    So.....ya got the Mesa gang playing on crowded tables, too? Tsk. Tsk.. Tsk. I will agree with the part about not playing long. However, I probably ain't walking if I PSO or short roll the very first hand.

    Doesn't matter if you've been tossing dice since 1866!

    Everyone should take a hand or two to get "Dialed in"!

    TDVegas was a tennis pro. YOU claim to have been a avid golfer. Ya think TD would begin a match against a tough opponent WITHOUT warming up?

    Would YOU wager on the Golf course without hitting a few swings?

    SCRATCH THAT LAST QUESTION. YOU probably would!
     
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  15. James Hall, Feb 22, 2018

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    You got it , I have people come in from several states
    Guys from New York , New Joisy , New Hamshu and all over that area say
    "I"LL GIVE YO A LITTLE RINGY DINGY" I understand That's sort of a yankee thing , "RINGY DINGY" and instead of saying I'll see you later they say
    "I'll see you on the flip flop" They sure have a funny way of talking out there . They don't use Rs at all , they call a FORK a fowak oh and for CAR they say CAA
    I PAWKED MY CAA . People from New York and Texas are separated by a common language
     
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  16. tabletop123, Feb 22, 2018

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    Here's one for ya....Leonard "Bugs" Rucker....one if the best Bank Pool Players ever. I once witnessed a wolfing match between Bugs & another good Bank Pool Player ( Cannonball John Chapman aka "Lefty"). Lefty told Bugs "If ya hit just ONE ball, or take just ONE warm-up stroke....I ain't playing ya! Lol

    What's really hilarious is that Bugs was "High as a kite" from drinking Robitusson ( cough syrup), & inhaling Airplane glue out of a Brown Paper Bag ( the drugs of choice back in the 70's in THE HOOD) ...that Bugs wasn't gonna win THAT particular day, anyway!

    After all of the "wolfing", & back & forth bullshit......They didn't play!
     
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  17. James Hall, Feb 22, 2018

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    Nope I arrive at the golf course in plenty of time to warm up hi two or three large bucket of balls and hit the chipping green and the putting green
    When playing tournaments I spend even more time .

    As far as the Mesa guys , some of them go to Laughlin a lot and play when they have the board on the table
    two of them came over last night , they played a couple weeks ago on the table with the board won over $800 each on one roll
    but they aren't as smart as some of they guys on this forum they believe WITH DI THEY CAN WIN PLAYING CRAPS SO THEY DO
    I guess sooner or later they will get SMART like many on this forum and start believing nothing works then they will start losing like everybody on this forum
    Gawd help em
     
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  18. James Hall, Feb 22, 2018

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    You have to wonder why mothers name their children names like that I heard of one guy called , "HACKSAW HAKNER" , w
     
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  19. James Hall, Feb 22, 2018

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    We use a different method for , "GETTING DIALED IN"
     
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  20. James Hall, Feb 22, 2018

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    Evidently , "TEDIOUS" went to red rock to play
     
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