Craps Table of a different type

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  1. KokomoJoe4, Oct 28, 2017

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    gargoil,

    While placing that wager will pay you on the number you are looking to cover, the number is expected to show on only 1 of 36 placements, and not show on the other 97.2% of the come out rolls.

    So placing boxcars to "cover" the "problem" of not having it pay at come out will actually make the math much worse than playing just the Don't.

    There is NO way to "improve" the math of the game. It is player negative by design, and the casinos know this.

    Only the variance introduced by (1) odds and (2) random and unpredictable (player favorable) dice outcomes give us a "mathematically definable" opportunity for a win, even a big win.
     
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  2. KokomoJoe4, Oct 28, 2017

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    Of course, these player favorable dice outcomes can be explained more than one way!

    As you know, this is the basis of the argument that exists between the "DI" and the "it's all random" camps.
     
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  3. gargoil, Oct 28, 2017

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    Yes and my question was directed from a math perspective of the game. As you know my opinion on DI, while I believe it is possible, I don't believe in dice control or sniping numbers. I have never seen anyone do it with a high success rate.
     
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  4. The Comeback Kid, Oct 28, 2017

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    That's why you don't play the math; you play the energy. And the primary energy source to be deal with, is your own. That's the elephant in the room. But this takes practice & if you don't think the common denominator is you, please reconsider.

    Once you begin to see that what's going on inside is being reflected in what's happening outside, you come into your power. I never understood this until I applied it to Craps.Therefore, not just a game, but a path of transformation. Because in this context, energy in motion = e-motion.

    Therein lies the only thing you can control - not the thing...no, no...not the thing, (not now anyway) but how you feel about thing. Put the horse before the cart. Shift your perspective & now the thing i.e. the condition changes from random chaos, to not just any kind of order, nay, nay, but the kind of order you prefer. And lo & behold, when you see your intentions being played out in perfect orchestration, why, you'll never be the same again. This is not new age mumbo-jumbo...it's physics.

    So let's say, OK, CBK, I wanna shift, what's the 1st step?
    You really wanna? Ya...I really wanna.
    You really really wanna? Yeah, I really REALLY REALLY WANNA!
    OK. Stop saying, "it's a negative expectation game".

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  5. KokomoJoe4, Oct 28, 2017

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    When we walk into the casino with say $300, and walk out with $1500, the expectation was not achieved. However, this is not a problem

    It is what it is, and it is the math that tells us both, that is, what it is and what it can be. (I really want to see the Baron's response to this).

    CBK, I do like your thoughts on and approach to playing the game. There are times when things go splendidly and put you into a good frame of mind.

    it is those times when NOTHING goes correctly that drive me crazy and get me to see that the elephant really is there.
     
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  6. Mssthis1, Oct 28, 2017

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    Those are the days when you need to find something else to do. If I change my betting style during a session and it doesn't work because the dice flip flopped the same time I did, I end that session and find something else to do.

    It took me way too many years to learn that. The final straw was last January in Biloxi. First thing on a Friday morning I cashed in $900 in chips from the previous day. The cashier tried to give me $9 and it took two tries to correct them. That whole day I bled money no matter what game I played or how I played it.

    The universe was trying to tell me something when the cashier accidentally tried to chump me and I didn't figure it out until a day later.

    Now I start and end sessions when I want to depending on how I feel and what the world around me is telling me. Win/loss, dice hot/cold, and all that other crap doesn't enter into the equation any more.

    Most casinos are open 24/7. There's no reason why you can't start and stop sessions when you FEEL like it or YOU WANT to. Don't let things like I HAVE TO GET BACK TO EVEN or THE DICE ARE TOO HOT TO LEAVE cloud your mind.
     
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  7. TDVegas, Oct 28, 2017

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    Granted I'm very close to the casino...but I generally follow this too.

    I'm not entirely superstitious but sometimes I do "hear a voice" based on what has happened. If it's going bad....for better or worse how it would continue to go if I stayed---I don't find out. I leave. There is always tomorrow.

    If anything...0% house edge when walking out the door isn't bad.
     
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  8. tabletop123, Oct 28, 2017

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    Amen to that! I know the right move to make whilst in the Casinos! I preach it all of the time right here on this forum......then I go do the OPPOSITE of what I preach,,& end up getting castrated! Lol.

    It took me a long time to realize that deft tosses don't guarantee success! I absolutely love tossing JUST ONE hand per session ( win or lose), but somehow that TOSSING ONLY ONE HAND. Is just like Jay's Potatoe Chips....ya can't eat just one! Lol
     
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  9. basicstrategy777, Oct 29, 2017

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    To start the craps day properly, it is important you feel 'up'.....you wear cloths that fit your mood.....you 'test' your luck for the craps day by playing at least one casino game other than craps to get a sense how lady Luck is going to treat you........then approach the craps table, rub your hands together and have an air of dominence about you ; ......if all has been going well up to that point, in spite of a superior foe, you will emerge victorious.

    777
     
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  10. Edward-ky, Oct 29, 2017

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    Its funny but before i play craps i will usually go play keno i guess you can say a guilty pleasure to see how the lady may shine on me for that day.
     
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  11. Edward-ky, Oct 29, 2017

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    If the numbers are a rollin im not about to be goin.
     
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  12. von duck, Oct 29, 2017

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    Catchy Edward-Ky, you'll have all the guys sayin this. :D
     
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  13. James Hall, Oct 29, 2017

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    A high success rate is relative , some people have no success , some have a little success , some have even more success
     
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