craps has gone to crap

Discussion in 'Beginner Zone' started by tercol58, Jun 21, 2011.

  1. biggybilly, Nov 29, 2011

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    There is nothing wrong with the Iron Cross in general. It contains the one esential element for completely blocking the the table and forcing it to pay out. That being the field bet. Plus two more bet positions that your missing.
    In this year 2011 a Mrjohnrstevens put out what may be considered the ulimate in Craps strategy. He calls it the Craps Blast. The initial workings of this can be found at Best Winning Craps System #1 on YouTube.com. I myself have put this technique to use with surprising and most profitable results. Layered into it's strategy is the Iron Cross. Good Luck!
     
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  2. Sancho Panza, Nov 29, 2011

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    Unvarnished huckstering:

    "Now here's my offer to you. A chance to learn this truly amazing system. Something I've kept secret for years. A First in the History of Craps Gaming. A Complete New Master Principal of actual Profitable Attack. Safe and simple to engage. Easy adaptation to your own personal variations.
    Forget the phoney dice control. "LEARN TOTAL TABLE CONTROL" Know exactly where when and why to Bet In. Propper redemption of the odds through Bet Scrooging. Numbers Capture. Field Triggering. Blasting. plus The 7 Net Haul.
    Will it win? Do you feel LUCKY? For the CrapsBlast not to win it would have to be your "unluckiest" day in a casino. Or they could change the table layout everywhere. Not very likely.
    So here it is. Your move - to the Next Level of Craps Gamming. Play like a real Pro. And at a blasted low price everyone a winner can afford."
     
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  3. biggybilly, Nov 30, 2011

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    Being new to this forum I perhap foolishly presumed that it was all about helping each other. I didn't realize that bringing to attention new (never percieved of) strategies of play were considered Hucksterism. So the pass-come, bet regression and even the iron cross I suppose all fall in this league? None the less, seeing nothing new in the anylitical world of Craps on this site I still back and shall continue to use the findings of Mr. Stevens. His new approach to solving the total blockage of the table has performed astonishingly well for me, and so it seems for several others.
     
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  4. DeMango, Nov 30, 2011

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    Really?
    Was King Solomon wrong??
    Is there indeed, "Something new under the Sun"???
    And it is for sale at a nominal price????
    Forget the Youtube, where is the link?????
     
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  5. Southern-Comfort, Nov 30, 2011

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    Things may not always be what they first seem, and whereas you did come off appearing to be shilling for this amazing new and just discovered way of guaranteeing wins, perhaps you we just being a bit too enthusiastic at first. If this be the case, apology accepted, and I'll offer you mine as well.
    However, I did follow your links where to buy this system, and the four youtuibe videos, and I saw nothing that indicated anything new. Forget the appearance of the video itself, his rolls were great, making many points before sevening out each time and then showing that he made $10 on the roll. However, if he happened to roll a seven one or two points earlier, nice loss... never mentioned nor considered. If he finally introdudced the Iron Cross by the end of the fourth video, well I quit watching due to boredom, so perhaps you can clue me in to how the Iron Cross fits in to save your bets.
     
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  6. biggybilly, Nov 30, 2011

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    I ventured onto this forum in hopes of finding new approaches to Craps Gaming. Unfortunately I've failed to see not even one mention of such simple matters as pattern recognition, basic quantum mechanics, or even the knowledge of well known gambling author Huey Mahl. Nor that of The Gambler's Book Club in Las Vegas. Well known for decades as the top source of gaming knowhow and expertise.
    As for your clue - Once again "The Iron Cross" is the only system configuration that contains logical field blockage. The final algorithm that blocks the entire table and forces the game to render winnings. Checkmate! The Craps Blast.
    However this movement can not be used alone and must be engaged at the correct time. And even with that said and performed you won't "always" win your gambit. Just like you won't "always" win at Poker, Monopoly, or Marbles. Uncontrollable factors of luck weave in and out of play. Hence the term Gambling.
    With that being noted I have still found no better attack than The Craps Blast. Although The Patrick System bears some interest and further research.
     
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  7. Southern-Comfort, Nov 30, 2011

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    The problem with the Iron Cross is that you sacrifice half the potential winnings on three of the most common numbers (5,6 and 8) so that you have a chance at hitting on the unlikely numbers 2,3,11 and 12... of which in a normal roll you can call yourself lucky if you break even chasing those. Darksiders like to lay 4 and 1 right off for a reason, and thise are more likely to hit. And since the Iron Cross is a oneshot bet, I really don't think even odds on the same numbers you can get better odds off of on the passline is a good idea. Please explain to me how the Iron Cross is actually a better bet. I mean, if you want the 2,3,11 and 12 also, just hop them, you'll make more money.
     
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  8. biggybilly, Nov 30, 2011

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    Final comments. To explain the use of "The Iron Cross' an it's application in solving Craps Table blockage and forcible payout would involve perhaps more than a final written PHD thesis. Without wanting to be labeled that of "Huckster" as Mr. Stevens quaintly puts it, 'You gotta check out the Craps Blast baby.' Otherwise your like the someone who wishes to drive his automobile without first fueling it up.
    Once again I came here looking for new ideas. Not to hold lectures. I've had enough of that through out my scholastic career.
     
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  9. Southern-Comfort, Nov 30, 2011

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    No, I come off as somebody who wants to test drive a car before I buy it. Theres nothing even resembling such (in fact its as far from giving any appearance of integrity) in any of the information you sent links to. If it requires a PHd thesis, then why in H can'y he give a halfway professional looking demo?
    And if its so well known, why are you (who nobody has ever heard of) the only one who has ever heard of it? And if you're here to be "looking for new ideas", then why are uyou only advertising this new... I'll call it a system, even though theres nothing new there and as offered there is actually no new system.
    Good to see you're still around, Harley.
     
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  10. DeMango, Dec 1, 2011

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    Such garbage, Huey is not sold at the Gamblers Book Store. Forget Quantum, what we are after is dice mechanics. So this is Harley? Gave up on selling us shaved dice?
     
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  11. Southern-Comfort, Dec 1, 2011

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    Truth is, I don't really think its Harley, it just felt good saying that. At least Harley has an actual presence in the craps community.
     
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  12. DeMango, Dec 3, 2011

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    In truth when someone comes on and starts pushing a system or coach, and attacking posters (not BB) but in another thread to the point where admin has to make comments, that is where, if I ran this board, I would check IP addresses and note "hey, this is also XXXX posting on another handle. For example if Harley needs to be Harley, to advertise or backup his web site then he is Harley. But if he is here to promote something else or flame, then he is.....
     
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  13. $nakeEye$, Dec 3, 2011

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    D -

    This is NOT Harley -

    THIS topic has no relevevance to " BIASED DICE " "

    Need I say more ?
     
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  14. $nakeEye$, Dec 3, 2011

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    Additionally, one needs to look where the " attack " is coming from - and react / respond accordingly !!!!!!!!
     
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  15. pogostick, Jan 9, 2012

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    Try the don't side & have a $5 bet on every throw of the dice . Don't pass then don't come. Do not lay odds on the don't side. Try it , I think you will be surprised . Don't bet on those sucker bets.
     
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  16. rudeboy99, Apr 19, 2012

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    You are also under capitalized. A solo $100 buy-in at a $5 minimum game isn't going to give you much breathing room if you don't catch a small "hand" immediately.
     
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  17. KokomoJoe4, Sep 18, 2016

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    I can easily go one better than this. Play only a single bet, perhaps one that is decided on one roll of the dice and pays better than average, something like 15:1 or 30:1.

    The only proviso is this, it must be engaged at the correct time.:rolleyes:
     
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  18. oldgrasshopper, Sep 19, 2016

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    SE, what about a TOTAL of $300 on the 5,6,8 ($100 each) and $150 on the field for ONE HIT ONLY?
    I don't recall who posted this strategy but that's the bet. I took notice because it was reported that
    at least one individual (who claimed to be a prol) used this way to bet on the IC. Thank you.
     
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  19. Onautopilot, Sep 19, 2016

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    The problem with this strategy, and any other "one hit" only strategy, is the reality......One hit only, and quit forever?

    If you play it more than once, in the same session, or another session, it is just a continuous play, with "time outs" between bets. No different in expectation than playing it every roll.

    Trying to walk between the rain drops without getting wet! :)
     
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  20. betwthelines, Sep 19, 2016

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    IAOBS...ATYD

    tom p
     
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