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  1. SevenOut, Nov 1, 2016

    SevenOut

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    Read my THREAD about Bubble Craps. I actually gave you or someone else on this Forum for coming up with... Bubble Craps, the term.

    I play $10/$12 Place Bets on the 5, 6, 8, 9. My pass line wager is $5 with 4X odds.

    We ran two Craps tables, a 12 foot and a 14 foot... three evenings a week.

    I have had the 'novelty of playing Craps' worked out of me years ago. I was on the House End of the game. It cures your urge to WIN at Craps as a Player.

    Anyone on this Forum, or lets say most on this Forum, can spot someone who has no clue as to how to wager correctly. They make wagers that work against the another for... safety.

    My wife likes Bubble Craps, but prefers to play Three Way Poker. It is more entertaining. She dealt Craps, Blackjack, Let it Ride and Roulette. Plays NONE of these table games. Much more entertaining BEING the House... than A player. (Trust me. The House wins 'most' of the time.)

    Much like car racing. I would enjoy the racing part as the driver, but would prefer to work on the mechanics of the race car. Driving would not be my number one interest. Same with Craps. I learned more about Systems watching... so do the dealers at any Casino. Some are also Craps Degenerates, as we had several ourselves and they should have known better! They ended up working the Riverboat tables when they opened.
     
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  2. TDVegas, Nov 1, 2016

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    Yes, absolutely. I fully understand why you enjoy the bubble...besides the garbage that happens on tables with cranky dealers/players. If I play a 3 point Molly on the table...it's $30 max at risk. On the $1 bubble, it's $6....fully realizing I'm not going to be making anywhere near "table money" on a good roll. I'm fine with that. Like you, If I thought craps was a credible money making endeavor...I would be on the tables with $10,000/$50,000 right now...not $50 or $100.

    I play to win...but I play for fun.

    When I risk big money...only on the market. I don't consider that a negative expectation game...although some may disagree.:)

    To each his own how he likes to gamble...and how much.
     
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  3. Liman

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    well, you've been there, don't that, went back, done it 10 times again, you've logged in more time at a craps table then I ever will in 2 lifetimes.
    yet, like me, you still enjoy the action. A BIG REASON I enjoy low min bubble games from time to time.
     
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  4. DeMango, Nov 1, 2016

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    Fours on top, six two facing means the V3 set. Threes on bottom, five one facing shooter.
     
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    btw, the one job in the world I wouldn't want, is a dealer in a casino.
    the shit Ive seen the dealer has to tolerate, not sure I could handle it 8-10 hours a day 6 days a week.

    might be a good thing to make all expecting parents work a craps table for 4 months before they have kids, will teach them tolerance and patience like no book will, especially considering most of the craps players are just big babies that cry and complain every 3 minutes.
     
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    I wouldn't want the job either: too much to learn and remember (odds, payouts for every combo of bet, etc). That's why I tip a lot.
     
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  7. TDVegas, Nov 1, 2016

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    It's a tough job. I think the next job phase out is going to be sports book cashiers. Kiosks don't get paid wages, health insurance, 401K's, free employee dining, etc.

    It prints a ticket. It's not chips that need to be turned in.
     
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  8. Liman

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    do any of the casinos(or all of the casinos) take credit cards for sports betting these days? (that would make kiosks very easy for casinos to switch over, like an atm)
     
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  9. SevenOut, Nov 1, 2016

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    Thank you. This V3 set and thrown like he was bowling down to the other end of the 14 foot table... was the best Session I have watched in a year.
     
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  10. SevenOut, Nov 1, 2016

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    My time was rotating on the Craps Tables and boxman. We would rotate the gals off the Craps Table onto the Blackjack as they are more sociable and kept the Blackjack table busy. Guys rotated off to the Roulette, as mostly women were playing and picking holes in the felt layout while playing.
     
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  11. SevenOut, Nov 1, 2016

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    There are formulas for all of the inside wagers, as many are split up differently. The purpose ultimately is when there is a WIN... to keep the SAME BET so the table can recoup some of the previous win. You know... the FOR one and TO one difference.

    For a full time dealer, it is automatic. I could not do it today. I keep track of my payouts on my wagers and keep an eye on the Hardways that may not be taken down by the Stickman.

    The old guy as Boxman at a table... He can smell an under or over payment on some odd wager. I have the most respect for the Boxman, serving as Judge and Jury at a table of rowdy players!
     
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  12. Onautopilot, Nov 1, 2016

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    Nice day at the casino, went up at noon, had lunch, played some craps and VP.........had a couple really nice rolls playing my pass come bet strategy, then hit aces without the kicker on the $1 VP machine.

    Very enjoyable ride home! :)
     
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  13. James Hall, Nov 1, 2016

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    worked great for me over the past 45 years plus thank you
    the statement stands
    when a person tries to develop almost any skill thru trial and error he will try things that others have
    many of them have not and will not work , so he tries something else then something else
    eating up a lot of time . effort and energy
    It is much quicker and easier to find someone who has developed the skill and learn from them
    saves a lot of money lost during the trial and error
    Very few people have become doctors , attorneys or other such
    without being trained
    again worked and is working great for me.
    and also there is no such thing as luck dumb or otherwise
    it is no substitute for skill
     
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  14. TDVegas, Nov 1, 2016

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    Typically, no.

    The casinos fear the wager will be disputed...
    "I was inebriated"
     
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    makes sense.

    they could have some kind of waiver that accessing their kiosk and punching in your 10 digit access code eliminates them from any liability to your action, but I guess my idea doesn't fly because they haven't done it yet.
    then just pay out with a slip like the slot machines.

    some industries, its getting ridiculous.
    I recently rented a car out of west palm beach airport and the car rental had a touch screen where you saw a live person, and had to put your license into a card feeder, credit card in, but it was taking so long with one person finally someone came out from the back and took care of us.
    while I understand what a money saver that was, having someone maybe in Arkansas taking care of someone in florida, the system sucked, royally sucked.
     
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  16. $nakeEye$, Nov 1, 2016

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    OnAutoPilot -

    I am accustomed to dealing with Cheats, Liars and Thieves -

    YOU, fit ALL THREE , to a " T'" -

    YOUR responses to my correct allegations regards YOUR casino antics REMAIN TO BE ADEQUATELY / HONESTLY answered -

    IT is unbelievable how you attempt to skirt the issue at EACH and EVERY TURN -

    As I said before - and I re-iterate -

    YOU are TOTALLY PATHETIC !

    $...eE..$
     
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  17. $nakeEye$, Nov 1, 2016

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    And YET - ANOTHER - Obviously Apparent Outright LIE by a Totally Pathetic Individual !

    $..eE..$
     
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  18. TDVegas, Nov 1, 2016

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    In some respects...technology works great. In other respects, flaws are noted.

    There are now apps where you can simply take a picture of a check and it gets deposited into your account. No bank. No ATM.

    On the credit card and gaming issue....the credit card companies want no involvement with disputes over sports betting like this---it's just too easy for a holder to call them with excuses and to withhold payment.

    I know you can set up a sports betting account with various casinos around town with phone apps, but it can only be used here in Nevada....I would surmise that money must be in the account before you can wager it---no credit.
     
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  19. Liman

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    theyre getting close, they've always had that casino cash deal where you can use your credit card and they take the money with huge fees and pick up the cash at a cage.
     
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  20. The Comeback Kid, Nov 2, 2016

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    "What works best for one, is not necessarily good for another."
    You’ve defended your position well. Nothing you've stated is inherently wrong, but see if anything here resonates.

    In every endeavor of life there is the science of it, and then there’s the art. The science will take you to the place where everyone is; mass consciousness. And that’s fine, but it’s old news. Regurgitation is mediocrity dressed up like progress, but in the art of the matter - that's where the true masters are born.

    Here one must rely on intuition, internal guidance & gut instinct in order to express a uniqueness that veers off the beaten path, and takes science to “a ho nutta level”. Everyone wants the latest greatest new thing, and that requires tapping into the master within us all - waiting to emerge.

    The art looks messy, chaotic, and ludicrous because it doesn’t follow the standard thinking-of-the-day. It's filled with trial and error. But once established it becomes the new science. Think of the great innovators, Van Gogh, Edison, Tesla, Jobs, Picasso – all were comfortable with trial & error.

    In our over educated world, it’s a sad thing to see intuition and unique self-expression beaten out of children at an early age – “Shut up, Sit down & Listen. We’re gonna tell you how it is!”

    Consequently, we end up in a life that is over-rationalized & under-realized. Trust me when I say, to deny your feelings is to deny your connection, your leverage & all of your power. Trust the force.

    Suggested reading: Jonathan Livingston Seagull
    (quick read - 28 pages)

    "Your whole idea about yourself is borrowed - borrowed from those who have no idea of who they are themselves." — Osho
     
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