Craps "$61 Grinder's Choice" Conservative Betting Strategy

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  1. von duck, Nov 20, 2019

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    :confused:? :cool: !!! :)....." :D "
     
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  2. TDVegas, Nov 20, 2019

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    I’m not questioning why you play craps. I’m might question why you aren’t playing more craps with your proclaimed skills. You are here questioning random believers....why they are even playing!

    I’m sorry you can’t understand why.
     
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  3. twodicebilly, Nov 20, 2019

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    you can turn this around anyway you want, i have never questioned why anyone
    plays the way they. I offer my experiences and any player is free t choose any
    part of it they think may help their game or choose none of it.

    You have been here years trying to tell everyone it makes no sense....that is your
    choice.

    TDB
     
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  4. TDVegas, Nov 20, 2019

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    Why KKJ and Mssthis parlay come out naturals. This stuff happens more than one might think.

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  5. von duck, Nov 20, 2019

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    Yeah, we can see you had a ton of money on it. :rolleyes: I can show you some shit that happens a lot more often than this. :confused: :cool:
     
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  6. von duck, Nov 20, 2019

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    Maybe for the same reason that Tiger Woods only played about 16-18 tournaments a year, when he was in his prime. :confused: Would he have made more money, or less money, if he'd played more? Who knows? :cool: How do you know, how often anybody plays? :)
     
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  7. TDVegas, Nov 20, 2019

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    C’mon billy...OF COURSE you have questioned random believers why they even play craps. Recently too. Why you deny this stuff when your record is there is beyond me. I could post a picture of you hugging Trump and you would deny it ever happened.

    2 months ago.....
    http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/which-dont-method-is-best.40364/page-2
     
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  8. basicstrategy777, Nov 21, 2019

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    what does that mean....that you shouldn't do it ......10 bucks gets to 160 and you make the point you are are 320.......assuming you didn't drag out anything along the way.......are you suggesting this is not a good play ?

    777
     
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  9. eagleeye2, Nov 21, 2019

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    Mssthis1,

    You have a SLOTS mentality with that CRAPS Play, loose most of the time, but hanging on for that BIG Hitter Bonus, that continues to elude, what a HOOT!!!

    eagleeye2
     
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  10. KokomoJoe4, Nov 21, 2019

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    What I find as more of a hoot is the thought of controlling chaotic, random dice outcomes, but to each his own.

    The one roll winners are expected to show 8/36 = 22.2% of the time, where the player has eight ways to win, four ways to lose and 24 ways to a box number.

    With a winning come out left up as a parlay, your now 2x wager can become 4x in one roll of the dice, and can also become 4x if it goes to a box number, without the risk of odds, and comes back before the seven shows.

    So a parlayed come out winner wins you four times what you put out at risk.

    How much does a place bet winner pay? Either 1.17x, 1.4x or 1.8x your at risk $.

    Are you still laughing EE?
     
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  11. twodicebilly, Nov 21, 2019

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    now that is funny....I am explaining how I feel, if (I felt) like
    that I would not play...I never told Koko how to play.

    Now if you think about it one second....that should explain once again
    why I play and where I find the enjoyment in the game of craps...

    TDB
     
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  12. eagleeye2, Nov 21, 2019

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    KoKo,

    I still Say:

    You have a SLOTS mentality with that CRAPS Play, loose most of the time, but hanging on for that BIG Hitter Bonus, that continues to elude, what a HOOT!!!

    eagleeye2
     
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  13. Mssthis1, Nov 21, 2019

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    Any you feel placing the six and eight for table min and trying to press them to the moon for a big win isn't a slot's mentality? The odds of that happening are much worse than the odds of a string of pass line winners.

    If you truly had a controlled toss and truly wanted to win as much money as possible, you'd flat bet your best number woco at the most your bankroll could stand.
     
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  14. twodicebilly, Nov 21, 2019

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    sounds like you believe in dice......control !!!!!!!

    TDB
     
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  15. von duck, Nov 21, 2019

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    Yes I am, and I'm also suggesting, that this is the reason you are not shown , what the result of the next bet was. :D If somebody shows you the numbers that will role, it's pretty easy to give them a "winning" strategy. To each his own, but to me, this appears to be a way to lose, and quickly. :cool:
     
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  16. TDVegas, Nov 21, 2019

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    If I had your proclaimed dice skills...I would be playing more and at higher limits.

    I am explaining how I feel....I never told you how to play. That's all.

    What's the difference from what you told KKJ????:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
     
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  17. basicstrategy777, Nov 21, 2019

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    He could have lost the PL bet......but what if he dragged out some chips on the way up......he would have won no matter what happened.......to start with 10 bucks and parlay that up to a 320 dollar win is good stuff.....sure, you could lose the bet, but what would it take for you to win 320 playing "normal".......low exposure here....low initial bet here......less time on the table here.......I guess to each his own, but to me, it's a great way to catch lightening in a bottle......and if you play the 3 way, say 3 bucks each, when the bet is high....who cares if a craps is thrown......you basically cannot lose on that toss as the worse that can happen is you throw a point.....7/11 you win....2/3/12 you win.....point, you might win.....

    777.
     
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  18. Mssthis1, Nov 21, 2019

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    I have an old paper somewhere on Blackjack where they ran the math and then simulations to see which was more successful at turning $100 into $10,000, flat betting or parlaying.

    Parlaying was more successful and worked once in a blue moon. Flat betting never worked because normal negative variance would always get you.

    Even though this was Blackjack, the same theory applies to craps. It boils down to what is more important to you, table time, or a shot at a big win.

    Pre post reply for Daffy: I'm not implying someone should plop their entire session stake on the line the first roll and try to parley it. If you want to try to turn a small bet into a couple hundo or more it's a fun way to play.
     
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  19. von duck, Nov 21, 2019

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    The odds of catching that run, would be 7X4X7X7! One chance in 952. So. 951X$10= $9510. Made $320 did ya? :confused: Don't like it. :cool:
     
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  20. KokomoJoe4, Nov 21, 2019

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    $10 to $320 involves five consecutive winners, at least 4 of which must be successive passes. No sense in trying to go this far with a $10 start. I would be happy at $40 from $10, but might try for $80.

    The thing I like best about the parlay is the opportunity for savings they give you when you are already progressing.

    In this situation, I would ride the come outs as far as they go, if for no other reason than to avoid the loss of big odds.

    One I remember from long ago was something like 200->400->800->to point, then seven out, so it didn't even work for me.
     
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