Conservative bets help please.

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  1. James Hall, Jul 21, 2016

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    actually thats not what I am talking about
    I am talking about tjis new phase that was brought about by Dom , Frank , Parr and all that group . They took variations and compiled it , wrote about it
    and started a whole new revolution
    It will continue with even more tweeks etc. until it gets to the point that the casinos will have to do something
    but you are right those sraregies that were based in part on so called cheating have been around foe as long as people have been throwing dice
    The best I ever saw with what WE call controlled throw was my mentor Sydney He would bet you , your house and car in three rolls he would throw any number you mentioned
     
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  2. KokomoJoe4, Jul 21, 2016

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    Answers to important questions:

    (1) I do not know why I play as much as I do. It is usually less enjoyable than staying at home.

    (2) What I amount to at the craps table I do not know. I make of point of not being catered to as I have never had a card or a comp from any location I have ever been to - even my home base, which I have been to about 900 times. I have no interest in anything they might want to give me.

    (3) Like Jethro Bodine, I have graduated the sixth grade. You? The sixth grade presentation on what randomness is says it all.

    (4) I don't call anything DI. DI is a figment of your imagination, not mine. I do not know the purveyors of this craft. I do not want to know them.

    (5) I will continue to lay my little buy-ins, because that is what I want to do. I am happy to accept my little wins, when I can get them. Why? Because they are better than a loss. Better than the little wins are the big ones. I have had five or six wins of over 2000% from my little buy-in.

    I keep records of play, have 1300 sessions, and am ahead of the bank by a few bucks. I do not rely on magic. I play the way in which I have had the best results. I assume others do the same, but do not really care.
     
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  3. James Hall, Jul 21, 2016

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    from your post I get the impression you are a person with little or no joy in his life
    how sad

    as far as the sixth grade presentation on what randomness means that does not say it all
    it left out the part where randomness can be and is from time to time altered
    but I am sure from your post you would have no interest in anything that would require any investment of effort
    just continue on
     
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  4. Onautopilot, Jul 21, 2016

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    James, I am not going to get involved with your conversation with Koko...he can well handle that. But just wanted to warn you....bring your "A" game if you are going to engage him!
     
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  5. TDVegas, Jul 21, 2016

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    Really?...I would suggest just the other..KKJ seems like a well informed player who enjoys his way of play and has no ideas of the game being anything more than enjoyment WITH the hope of winning. He plays a tough game and enjoys his time at the table.

    Just because someone doesn't buy into the idea that random outcomes in craps play can be altered...there is a suggestion on how one is living his life?? I've never heard of something this absurd.
     
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  6. Onautopilot, Jul 21, 2016

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    If you don't agree with James, or question his claims, it doesn't matter if you are a successful Doctor (Dentist), Lawyer, or Indian Chief.......you are a stupid, inept, loser, with a life not worth living.

    Tells you a little about his "life" I would think.
     
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  7. James Hall, Jul 21, 2016

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    you got , he enjoys the game out of that post ?? talk about an absurd conclusion ,, I feel sorry for the guy
    if you read his post he said he didn't know why he plays he said it is usually less enjoyable than staying home
    I can see how it would be tough the way he plays
    re scan some of your posts
    it will refresh your memory
    well informed ?? the math has him stymied
    he's a TDV student , always the math
     
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  8. Edward-ky, Jul 21, 2016

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    I like James he states how people are afraid to come on here to learn or get help on here. But he is the first 1 to get on here to call you a loser for buying in for such a small amount of money.
     
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  9. Edward-ky, Jul 21, 2016

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    Well I can't see why people not wanting to join this forum and get this kind of treatment.
     
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  10. James Hall, Jul 21, 2016

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    risk and reward , risk and reward
    I was reflecting on how some buy in for $100 play a $6 six and 8 and take off with $50 TO $100 win and are so skeptical
    when some one else talks about a larger win , it's like it's beyond their scope of reality
    I get negative response over stating "I DO QUITE WELL"
    one guy even said , "when I see such OUTRAGEOUS statements as that I am going to call you out"
    and at onetime he was even going to blow his whistle , whatever that means
    it just leads me to believe that random players don't know what it is to win
     
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  11. James Hall, Jul 21, 2016

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    Help me understand your post please
     
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  12. HornHiYo, Jul 21, 2016

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    It is all talk and no substance. Just a wanna be that recites books and manuals written for the DI fallacy and pretends he is one.
    Ask him how he determines biased dice at a table and watch him beat around the bush and avoid helping people learn.
     
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  13. James Hall, Jul 21, 2016

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    anything I have ever said that could be in the least considered bad treatment has BEEN IN RESPONSE TO SOME POST ACCUSING ME OF WHAT SOME OF YOU CONSIDER BS
    many on this forum will not stand for anybody talking about wins they consider extraordinary they call any of that BS I find that ludicrous
    they don't like even a hint of the subject of what many of you call DI
    I find that many on this forum have a very narrow view of what should be acceptable
    and they many times respond in a very rude way
    I will always respond in kind
     
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  14. TDVegas, Jul 21, 2016

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    C'mon James....you don't understand negative responses to this?
    No one likes a braggart.

    What's not to understand?
     
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  15. Edward-ky, Jul 21, 2016

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    No James nothing wrong with someone posting they did well. Ask tabletop does he get shit all over when he posts something about a win. I don't think so.
     
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  16. James Hall, Jul 21, 2016

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    you may try to justify your response to such as that
    those statements were made in reference to betting strategies we use and we find that we do quite well with them
    the problem is you can't accept that , you are even arrogant enough that you told one member on here what you will and will not accept as statement of fact
    now I don't know who you think you are but what makes you think you should be setting the standard who said you should censor posts

    Let me say it again with the betting strategies we use we do quite well
    that is not bragging that is a statement in fact if it bothers you
    play better and you too can do well
     
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  17. TDVegas, Jul 21, 2016

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    James,
    No one really likes a braggart. That has nothing to do with factual data or not. It's just that boasting about ones achievements or possessions in the manner you do it is considered bragging....and not really an admirable trait IMO.

    Maybe it's only me...but I've really never liked braggarts and I've distanced myself from them in my life. Some may like the way you boast---claim you "do quite well"---are more talented than others...I really don't. I don't know you personally and maybe you are different in person, but your boasting is a turn off for me.
     
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  18. tabletop123, Jul 21, 2016

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    Maybe one of the reasons i dont get "Shit" is because i have reported MANY sessions wherein i got my nuts clipped! I wont be posting many more losing sessions, because i now accept the small $50-$100 wins for a 15-30 minute session. My goal is to garner as many small wins as i can, & when i reach the $3,000 mark, i am gonna swing for the fence! Heh, i might get another nut clipping, but it will be with the Casino's money, & NOT a part of my original bankroll! Sure, the money is technically YOURS once it hits your rack, but when i am playing with winnings, i look at things a little differently, & i have absolutely no problem getting aggressive! After all......... I AM one of the best tossers in the country (whatever that means)! Lol.
     
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  19. Edward-ky, Jul 21, 2016

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    Yeah wouldn't mind seeing you play sometime. Do you play Cherokee mostly. I have stopped by there a few times on my through over to raleigh.
     
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  20. betwthelines, Jul 21, 2016

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    o, get off it, mr hall...you, me, we all set our own standards...and, spare me, NO ONE is "censoring" anyone here...yet another mischaracterization that you read into posts and that goes on in your own head only...
    o, my, such high standards you have...

    tom p


     
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