Come... I will tell you a short story

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  1. lone irish digit, Aug 30, 2018

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    Gordon did you forget this 7 Oct 2015 post by one of your good buddies who met up with Liman at a NY casino. Who do you think said these glowing things:


    After our introductions, we were off to find one of the many bubble craps machines. I'm going to make this part very short, Liman started good, then started losing, but with smart betting made his money back and me on the other hand just lost, sure there were some winning hands, but I just couldn't get my money back that I was losing. It had nothing to do with my shooting, let's face it you don't shoot the dice. At times, I called my bets off at the right time and at times short rolls or PSO would kill me.

    You could call it bad timing or just bad luck what difference does it make. The truth was that I lost and Liman won. But I will tell you one thing and that he was a very skilled player, I wasn't on the machines. Liman had the one thing that most craps players doesn't have and that was discipline when he made his money he knew when to call it quits.

    The point I'm trying to make here is it doesn't matter that he was playing bubble craps he made money!
    Now here is a guy that is playing a random game and nobody can make like it had anything to do with their shooting, after all the machine just times out and the dice bounce around and in the end there are two top numbers that say that you either won lost or broke even on every roll of the dice.

    Isn't that what the game of craps is all about, when it comes right down to it, it has nothing to do with your shooting, don't kid yourselves. Stop pounding on your chest and trying to force everybody into believing the BS you believe in. Most players don't believe in fairy tails anyway.

    You know they say seeing is believing, so I went to NY and I saw what Liman was all about which was playing bubble craps that I never had a problem with to begin with. I've always known that you don't have to be a so-called DI to win money at the craps tables, you don't even have to play on a real table to win! The one thing you need to know is how to bet and when to take your money off the tables.

    Liman turned out to be a great guy, one of the first things he did was to present me with one of his custom made pens that he makes out of different types of wood, for the pen barrels, that I will treasure forever. What a beautiful pen! We had some great conversation when we were both playing the game.

    The nice thing about playing bubble craps is you can sit there and you don't have to put up with the dealers that know it all, or the boxmen or the suits. Hell, the other players on the game can't even bother you, you could be playing the don't and nobody knows that you are playing that way. Nobody has a bad attitude when you are playing. They are not blaming anybody on the bad rolls of the dice.

    There are don't players on the tables all of the time on real craps tables, what they are doing has nothing to do with you winning or losing. Get the don't player on the same table thing out of your head, they can't affect the outcome of the roll. The dice do not know that they just threw in a big red, only you do!

    Playing the bubble craps machine can be a real eye-opener for anybody that thinks they are a DI. Does your betting style hold up, mine didn't! By the way I have played bubble craps before and won, it's not my first time playing the game that way. Now I could say I didn't have on my magic shoes and that was the reason I lost, but that would be just fiction or BS! I don't need an excuse when I lose, I know all too well what happened, it's like playing chess or sailboat racing, I made the wrong move at the wrong time and at the same time I didn't want to use a big bankroll to be able to dig myself out of the hole that I dug. I rather lose a little then lose a lot playing something that I'm not used to playing. Yes, you have to have a feel for the game you are playing.

    Yesterday, I didn't have that feel for the game, my timing was off. I had smart bets that lost on the short rolls and PSO's, when I took down a bet it would hit on the next roll of the dice.

    There is one thing that I've learned over the years and that is when someone is trying to cut down others because they do not play the same way they do, that person is very insecure about what they are doing.

    There is nothing wrong with playing bubble craps, you can make money at it. I know one guy that beats the game all of the time for big money! Liman made money and I didn't, now I could have turned this into a seven-page novel, but will spare you my pain and suffering at the machine and end this on a high note. When Liman makes it out to Vegas I will show him how to play on real tables and will show him around the Vegas area, that is one of the nice things you can do when you meet some of the guys from these boards.

    Now my videos have only one purpose and that is to show that I was there, and I didn't rip them off the internet like the great fiction writer the madprofessor does. So they are not professionally shot and most of the time I'm hiding the camera when I'm inside a casino!
     
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  2. James Hall, Aug 30, 2018

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    I have been going back thru old posts from YEARS past
    nearly all the conflict and ranker have been caused
    by your , "PUSH BACK" policy All that started
    with people long before I ever even heard of this forum
    I got on here and you went after me day one
    You are so heavily invested in your negative
    "CONTRADICT & CRITICIZE" routine you can't
    afford to stop . You keep it up , I will always have
    the RIGHT ANSWER for you
    I haven't heard from Fred P for awhile but then
    he still has "lieman" doing it for him
    They use to work like a tag team
     
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  3. Liman

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    interesting post by rick, but why on earth did he feel he needed to state that when I get to vegas he will show me how to play on a real table.uh, wait, lemme think about this, from 1975 thru 2012 I only had real tables to play on, and Ive done fine,
    maybe rick didn't get it, I didn't look to meet him for a teacher, only a fellow crapster to shoot dice or play bubble(no difference to me)
    I have yet to tell anyone Ive met from this board what I think they should do.......oh, wait, that is a lie, I once told kokojoe he should bet a hard 4. yeah, that time I did, but for the boards info, the craps god smiled on me, it came in the next roll or by the second roll. (I think it was the next roll) and I also mentioned I think someone should bet a hard 6, he isn't here anymore, he was a student of obie I believe, could be wrong, we both didn't bet, it came in within 10-15 rolls, with maybe one soft and one 7 out. so it would have been a rainmaker.

    ok, twice,
    talk never impresses me. just do it and show me.
     
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  4. TDVegas, Aug 30, 2018

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    Mmmmm...can't recall, don’t think it’s me but I'll go out on a limb here. Was this TDVegas who made this post?

    Patiently waiting to hear who said this.
     
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  5. yacraps, Aug 30, 2018

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    I like the rabbit foot rubbers the best...they come in all kinds of colors and are the luckiest personages
    thank you too much
     
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  6. twodicebilly, Aug 30, 2018

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    tdv

    I got some terrible news for you , that's five in a row
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  7. twodicebilly, Aug 30, 2018

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    That is a long post, but I fail to see where it has anything to do with
    what I said....Everything I indicated in my post from my experience is
    what I refer to.

    Look a few of you think James is the problem on the site, I think it
    TDV.... you have a right to your opinion, I to mine.

    I feel more than a little silly posting about wins and placing a picture of chips on
    this site. but as long as TDV insists you cant win on purpose, I will show you can.

    tdb
     
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  8. Liman

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    isn't too bad for a 1500 dollar buy in, your luck might change tomorrow and win back the 200.
     
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  9. lone irish digit, Aug 30, 2018

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    Dicesetter,

    My only point was you stated nobody you know had nice things to say about meeting Lieman and how he play craps. I was just helping you remember better. True the Supperick may have never called you about Lieman but he sure had a lot of nice things to say when he met up with Lieman a few years ago. If you read all the great things he said about Lieman's play you would have thought he was the second coming of the "Captain" or possibly Sidney.
     
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  10. TDVegas, Aug 30, 2018

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    the post has nothing to do with what you said??

    You stated you never heard anyone have a good word for Liman....and LID gave you a 1,000 word post from your buddy giving Liman major props....
    Did you read the post from LID?
    At the very least..acknowledge the post and who posted it (SR) and what he said and how it compares to what you said. Jeez.
     
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  11. Edward-ky, Aug 30, 2018

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    Well you cant believe what sr has to say anyway. He thought harley was a great to and he hung out with him all the time.
     
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  12. twodicebilly, Aug 30, 2018

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    Again that has nothing to do with me....

    I dont call anyone and ask about some one else, I dont email some one
    and ask about some one else. I rely for my opinions upon what I see
    and have been told by people I trust.

    As long as some one is nice to me I will be nice to them.
    I will say this one more time, TDV is the only guy on here with
    a number of problems... and in saying that I am not aligning myself with
    anyone else.

    If a few of you want to fight with James and he wants to fight
    right back, that is between you and him, if some of you want to
    fight with Rick and he wants to fight right back that is up to him and
    you.

    I am a craps player...… Rick is a craps player, the best I know, and he
    has helped me, and in helping me I have been able to help a couple of
    other guys. Last spring my plane got delayed getting into vegas, the
    rental car I paid for was not waiting for me and I spent almost $50
    getting to the hotel. ( and by that time my room was gone also (laughing)
    it was an interesting experience, but Rick was upset I did not call
    him at 3:30 in the morning. I would do that for friends.

    James from what I understand can help some guys also and actually
    thinks a player can make a difference in the results..i agree.

    Lid, I dont see you saying that, I dont see TDV saying that, I dont see Liman
    saying that.....now please understand me..... I dont care what anyone
    thinks of my game or shot, I stil have the right to ...my game and shot
    on here or at the casino.
    I do not want James or Rick getting involved with my nonsense with TDV
    nor do I want to get involved in the fights James has or Rick have

    I play craps, good or bad, it is the best I can do, and I like to talk about th
    parts of craps I think can make a difference. Accept that or not I dont care.

    tdb
     
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  13. twodicebilly, Aug 31, 2018

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    Grow the hell up already.
    I am not one of your groupies.. I see right through you and I think
    your shit and the cause of most problems one way or another on this
    site. that's the way you want it, as you say its just the way you fly.

    TDV your wrong an awful lot, you were 100% wrong about data
    on the wov site because you did not have all the information, you were dead
    wrong about my data, your dead wrong about the way to play craps, your dead wrong about Rick and what he knows about the game, your dead wrong
    about what james knows about the game of craps, I wonder if your ever right.

    I think you are so toxic that many times players interact in ways that would
    never happen if you were not directing traffic. Top accused me of not being able
    to win because I go fishing with my wife, reliable Liman accused me of buying in for $1500 so I could post a picture of chips.

    Your childlike behavior has rubbed off on many others...

    the only interesting part of you is that when a player says something to you
    that is true about your actions, youchange the subject completely and repost something
    from others to take the focus off of you....

    I cant wait to see what you post now......Maybe is James picture of chips, maybe
    its 40,000 rolls, maybe its Harley, maybe its the Wov site, maybe it the complete repost of some simulation, hell maybe knowing you it may be a recipe for peanut butter cookies without peanut butter


    tdb
     
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  14. Liman

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    didn't know how much Im unliked here, learn new shit every day when I log in or if the site lets me in
     
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  15. TDVegas, Aug 31, 2018

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    Then you probably should have avoided making a comment about it. Turned out you were refuted a couple years ago by your friend.

    You can't even acknowledge that. We all know you have self esteem issues, looking for a pat on the back, looking for affirmation of your skills. It's why you like to play yourself up here, talk yourself up.

    As far as you and James go...I'm confident I've pinned the tail on the donkey.

    Take Horns advice. Nobody cares. Only you should. Beyond that, it's craps...not inventing the A bomb.
     
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  16. twodicebilly, Aug 31, 2018

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    Well this is better than most of your replies.....you only lied once....
    wait, you only said one thing/////:):)

    tdb
     
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  17. HornHighBLEVE, Aug 31, 2018

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    I remember that particular post of SR's. Back then he was all about craps, posting lots of interesting dice related stuff. Always willing to meet and greet other crapsters. a real resource to the forum...

    ...I wish the real Super Rick would return to posting again and let bygones be bygones.

    I apologize if I'm out of line but SR just doesn't do 'angry' very well some guys can prosecute grudges with vigor but SR, a helpful soul isn't one of them.
     
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  18. SevenOut, Aug 31, 2018

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    Craps has two classes of Players.

    You and the Casino.

    When your Bankroll swells, YOU did Good.
    When your Bankroll shrinks, THEY did Good.

    Craps is not a WIN/WIN for anyone but the Casino. For those of you who have a hand full of chips, there are many more than have an empty pocket. The Table's Bank want you to Color Up when you leave, so their Bank looks full and no player is worried that the Table will run out of higher value chips... too soon.

    I always like to see a Player pay off a Marker before leaving the table WITH the Table's Chips.

    If you have ever been a jury member during a one week trial... the person on trial is always considered innocent until proven guilty. Same on this Forum. You can not be accused of assaulting the Stickman if you were not at that table.

    Some of you are assaulting one another as if you are all at the table at the same time.

    I would rather go fishing with TDB.

    Craps is much like working at a Feed Lot in Nebraska. You can shovel all your want, but the Cattle keep on giving. Unlike, your local Casino.
     
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  19. SevenOut, Aug 31, 2018

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    Craps has two classes of Players.

    You and the Casino.
     
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  20. SevenOut, Aug 31, 2018

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    Ignore Post #39. Must be the Forum's memory loss.

    SuperRick has an excellent website. I have not been there for some time, but then again there is enough going on here.

    I have met Rick. He speaks fluent English. His wife is very pleasant. We got along. We share similar outdoor activities. We DO NOT DISCUSS CRAPS.

    Craps to some is a Religion and needs to be defended to the Gates of Hell. Well... this is Hell at your door step.

    I do not care if you made a dollar or cleaned out the Casino of their Bank... it does not affect my life at all. If we do not agree, great. There are always Losers and Winners at a Craps Table, too...

    If I can figure out how to delete the repost of a post... I will. My wife says I repeat myself all of the time. "NO, I do not want to vacuum, anything." ... then repeat.
     
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