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  1. James Hall, Jun 12, 2018

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    It's a mystery alright:);):rolleyes:
     
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  2. James Hall, Jun 12, 2018

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    It is like I have posted many times
    "While the game is going on
    everybody knows what they should be doing"

    "When the game is over they know
    exactly what they should have done"

    There is a lot of valuable information a person
    can gain by going back over what happened and
    figuring ways they might tweek their betting strategy
    to take better advantage of what has happened
    Hind sight is 20/20 we can learn from this

    After a football game our coach would fire up the film
    and do what he called a , "CHALK TALK"
    reviewing the plays , outlining mistakes and
    talking about what was done right
    that can be a valuable asset even in craps ,
    looking at mistakes and finding solutions
    You might want to consider this
     
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  3. random_roller, Jun 13, 2018

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    There's no doubt hard work and preparation have allowed many people to be successful. However, every person -- even you -- has experienced luck (good & bad) at some point, resulting in a favorable outcome/achievement. You may be reticent to acknowledge you have been lucky at various points during your life, but you have been despite your denial. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. Heck, you might not even be aware that you were the beneficiary of luck that allowed you to avoid injury/death/misfortune. The only question is to what extent luck has played a role in things "working out" for the better. That's often difficult to accurately assess..

    Bill Gates is one of the most successful people in the 20th century. He, too, had some good luck. Had Gary Kildall and IBM successfully negotiated an NDA (making it likely IBM would license CP/M operating system from Kildall's company for the soon-to-be-released IBM PC), the story of Bill Gates (and Microsoft) might have been drastically different.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2004-10-24/the-man-who-could-have-been-bill-gates
    https://dfarq.homeip.net/gary-kildall-and-what-might-have-been/
    https://www.wired.com/2012/08/ms-dos-examined-for-thef/
    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/07/30/msdos_paternity_suit_resolved/

    Other lucky people (aside from MegaMillions & Powerball jackpot winners):

    9/11 related:
    http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/09/03/near.death.decisions/index.html
    https://www.deseretnews.com/article/875688/Twists-of-fate-saved-lives-of-many-on-911.html

    Missed the Titanic sailing:
    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/seven-famous-people-who-missed-the-titanic-101902418/

    Miscellaneous:
    https://www.rd.com/true-stories/inspiring/luck-ordinary-people/
    http://www.cracked.com/article_21642_5-people-saved-from-certain-death-by-impossible-luck.html
    http://www.cracked.com/article_2276...ntally-had-their-lives-saved-by-bad-luck.html

    Why Luck Matters:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazin...uck-matters-more-than-you-might-think/476394/
     
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  4. James Hall, Jun 13, 2018

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    Perhaps you can explain what power controls this thing you
    call luck
    Because of the way I have lived my life and because of choosing to
    ride rough stock in the rodeo and my experience in the military
    I faced death many times or injury many times , the thing that
    brought me thru those situations battered and bruised but yet alive
    was not some SUPERSTITION but training
    In the military I trained hard , in rodeo same thing , trained hard
    people who rely on superstition to succeed as opposed to
    training are doomed to failure
    The real question must be , "WHO OR WHAT CONTROLS LUCK"
    and what must a person do to get some?
    I can see how incidents such as this might lead someone to believe in the superstition (LUCK). What power do you suppose guided /directed all these activities to result in a favorable outcome

    What people like to call luck good or bad is generally the result of decisions GOOD & BAD
    Businesses thrive or go under as a result of decisions not luck

    For any power in this universe there is a source
    Bill Gates got what he got because of his decisions and
    the actions he took , to credit luck diminishes his efforts in
    securing everything he has accomplished

    Describe to us your definition of luck , the power that
    guides , directs and controls it
    I have asked this of many people over the years
    many believe in it but not one knew
    what it is , how or why it works
    Gamblers are among the most superstitious people on the planet
     
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  5. Mssthis1, Jun 13, 2018

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    I agree with Random. Hard work and preparation help immensely yet, a lot of it is just dumb luck. When I was 16 I had decided to be a truck gardener, do the farmers market etc. The farmer who owned the land where we lived let me use two acres and I had it completely planted in tomatoes, cucumbers and the like. June 19th we get the worst hail storm the area had ever seen and it's all gone and too late to replant most crops.

    Next day I'm out applying for jobs. That one event changed the course of the rest of my life, most likely for the better.
     
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  6. James Hall, Jun 13, 2018

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    That is one of the pitfalls of farming
    Back in 1970 - 71 I was in the horse business , breeding and selling quarter horses , an epidemic of , V.E.E hit Texas and decimated
    the horse business , the horses that survived that awful disease would never fully recover and made it impossible to sell a horse
    Many people were financially ruined . 6 years later I was back in business
     
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  7. The Midnight Skulker, Jun 13, 2018

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    I also agree with Random. Robert Burns: “The best laid schemes o' mice an' men / Gang aft a-gley.” Nevertheless, a well-laid scheme is less likely to "gang a-gley" than an unlaid one.

    At one time I considered writing something -- an essay, a short story, a script for a play/film, something -- based on the theme of going back in time to take advantage knowing the outcome of an event on which money could be wagered. Of course this plot has been done before in, for example, a Back to the Future movie and a couple episodes of The Twilight Zone, but mine had a twist: a random occurrence alters the "known" result.

    Given the recent attention horse racing's Triple Crown has received, does anyone remember Bob Baffart's 2002 non-winner War Emblem? Horse was a "lock" but stumbled out of the gate at Belmont and, according to some, basically gave up. In my version Barney, a SRT crapshooter, has a miracle session. He then goes back in LID's time machine and bets the entire $75 he won on Sarava, the horse that went off at 80:1 and won the Belmont Stakes that year. In this "replay", however, War Emblem breaks cleanly, wins with ease, and Barney ends up on Easy Street...holding the "Anything helps" sign.
     
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  8. random_roller, Jun 13, 2018

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    Luck is luck. It just happens, good and bad. Period. To deny its existence or impact (at times), IMO, is the epitome of stupidity. Like I said, there are times even you are lucky but you probably didn't even realize it.

    Clearly you don't know much about Bill Gates, Microsoft, and the history of DOS. That's okay, nothing wrong with that, as it might not be an area of interest for you. I'm very interested in PC technology. Under Gates' leadership, Microsoft was *NEVER* an innovator. For years, Microsoft's best product was arguably Flight Simulator, a program that was purchased from Bruce Artwick. When a Microsoft lackey asked what the company was most famous for, the punchline was "the 640K barrier". Its success came because it was allowed to operate as a monopoly for so (too) long, enabling it to amass a huge war chest which allowed Microsoft to acquire intellectual property and/or threaten other companies (litigation, refusal to license IP, create incompatible standards in the OS, etc.). It took a while for the courts to begin to understand what personal computing technology was really about and how laws should be interpreted/applied to new technologies. By then it was often too late for many competitors, even though some had better products/technologies. BTW, there is always such a lag when new technologies are introduced. Hopefully, if you read some of the links I had included, you learned a few things.

    Consider the 2012 Texas A&M at Louisiana Tech game -- which I have written about before on this forum -- as a great example of luck. In this case, the luck resulted when Hurricane Isaac moved into the Gulf of Mexico on August 26, a few days before the game was scheduled to be played in Shreveport (LA) on August 30. As a result of the projected path of Isaac and dangerous conditions caused by the hurricane, the game was postponed and rescheduled for October 13 (Week 7). Texas A&M was a huge beneficiary of good luck (more time to practice, learn & practice the new schemes, get the new QB game experience), while Louisiana Tech was the hit with bad luck (in addition to damage to the area that would be caused by the hurricane). A&M had a new head coach (Kevin Summlin), a new coaching staff with new offensive & defensive schemes, and an untested freshman starting QB (Johnny Football). LaTech had an experienced and talented starting lineup on both sides returning, including its QB. Had the game been played when originally scheduled (August 30), the Bulldogs would have absolutely rolled the Aggies. Texas A&M did absolutely nothing to create the fortuitous situation (game rescheduled for weeks later), nor did Louisiana Tech do anything that resulted in its bad luck. By the time Week 7 arrived, Johnny Football and the rest of his team & coaching staff had plenty of additional practices and game experience; this was no longer a raw, inexperienced team. As it was, the Aggies barely hung on for a 59-57 win over the Bulldogs. LaTech would lose 3 games that season, all to victorious bowl game teams that (if memory serves) finished ranked in the Top 25 final poll. However, the Bulldogs did not go to a bowl game that season because the team held out for a better bowl game and when an upset happened in another conference championship game...LaTech was left uninvited.

    Years ago, I was driving on a busy street, about to pull into a left turn lane. A car was ahead of me and it pulled into the left turn lane. All of a sudden, the driver of the car in front of me slammed on the brakes to stop for the changing light, likely because there was a police car stopped for the light in an oncoming traffic lane. No problem, as I was far enough behind and easily able to bring the car to a controlled stop; no way I would have beaten the changing light even if there hadn't been a car in front of me. The car in front of me stopped behind the solid white line indicating where vehicles were to stop in that lane when the light was red. All good so far. The lights cycled and the left turn signal for our lane had just turned green as a car from the right was speeding through the intersection trying in vain to beat his changing traffic light. That driver took the turn too fast, made too sharp a turn, and/or lost control of his vehicle and struck the car in front of me. Fortunately, neither of those cars hit my vehicle (neither driver was seriously injured). Now let's suppose there hadn't been a police car in the oncoming lane. To this day, I have no doubt the car in front of me would have continued through the intersection. Had that been the case, my vehicle would have been the lead one in the left turn lane -- and probably struck by the car from the right whose driver tried to beat his changing light while making a left turn. When he stopped at that light, the driver of the car in front of me had no idea in a few minutes his car would be hit by another vehicle. He wasn't thinking it's better to get hit by another vehicle than to get a ticket for running a red light. Unfortunately for him, it was right place, wrong time through no fault of his own (e.g., bad luck). For me, I was lucky that day, since my vehicle wasn't the lead one in the left turn lane.
     
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  9. TDVegas, Jun 13, 2018

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    I hasten to say....like drilling thru 3 feet of boron carbide. You’ll never get thru.

    If he happens to win the powerball....he's going to take credit for "all the hard work he put into picking the numbers" even though it was a quick pick by the machine.
     
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    This luck thing with Asshall is a troll ploy. He wants and needs the posts!
     
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  11. random_roller, Jun 13, 2018

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    Probably not, but no child left behind, right? Or has the current Secretary of Education done away with that approach>

    Lol on the lottery comment.
     
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  12. random_roller, Jun 13, 2018

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    Hey Fred, hope all is well.

    Any plans to hit the AC casinos now that sports betting is legal in NJ?
     
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  13. James Hall, Jun 13, 2018

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    I read something about that several years ago and the impression I got was that he got it primarily because no one else could see much value in it He MADE THE DECISION no one else would make
    Not even IBM was interested because they weren't into software
    at the time
    Lucky , unlucky , the reality is the team that was most prepared and plaid the best won teams have won games when faced with bad situations
    That was not luck either , someone made , A VERY BAD DECISION
    that is the cause of most failures
    Luck , unlucky ???
    Luck had nothing to do with any of this
    The bad stuff was , "CAUSED" by some stupid ass trying to beat the light
    You didn't get hit because you had simply not been in the way
    What most people call good luck or bad luck are
    "CAUSE & EFFECT" situations , in short situations both good and bad are caused by people , there is no , "MYSTERIOUS FORCE"
    at work
    "COINCIDENCE"
    All of this WAS CAUSED by a stupid driver
     
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  14. James Hall, Jun 13, 2018

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    Actually that is incorrect , what does show some signs of a less
    than stellar intellect might be the embracing of
    "SUPERSTITION" which should have been stamped out
    Immediately following the dark ages
     
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  15. James Hall, Jun 13, 2018

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    Actually if I should ever win the lottery
    I will chalk it up to being a happy coincidence
    "My numbers accidentally being the same ones drawn
    I will credit no particular POWER I will simply say
    My numbers came up and I get 200 million dollars usd
    simple as that
    I'm open minded , I will accept most anything reasonable
    superstition isn't ,
     
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  16. James Hall, Jun 13, 2018

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    Silly just Silly Frederick , Who needs posts and for what
    would they need them pray tell
    We need to come up with a cute little name for you too
    any thoughts ??
     
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  17. The Comeback Kid, Jun 14, 2018

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    There is a Taoist story of an old farmer who had worked his crops for many years. One day his horse ran away. Upon hearing the news, his neighbors came to visit. “Such bad luck,” they said sympathetically. “Maybe,” the farmer replied.

    The next morning the horse returned, bringing with it three other wild horses. “How wonderful,” the neighbors exclaimed. “Maybe,” replied the old man.

    The following day, his son tried to ride one of the untamed horses, was thrown, and broke his leg. The neighbors again came to offer their sympathy on his misfortune & bad luck. “Maybe,” answered the farmer.

    The day after, military officials came to the village to draft young men into the army. Seeing that the son’s leg was broken, they passed him by. The neighbors congratulated the farmer on how well things had turned out. “Maybe,” said the farmer.
     
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  18. tabletop123, Jun 14, 2018

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    James Hall parlayed $5 into $5,000.
    A Casino Patron said to James: Your dice looked absolutely perfect, & I am CERTAIN that you were Influencing the Dice.
    James Hall replied: " Definitely"!

    James Hall lost his $42 at the table.
    A Casino Patron said to James: "Sir, that Dice Influencing thingy is a total waste of time.
    James responded: Ya have to take the bad with the Good.

    James, & The Mesa crew darn near bankrupted a Casino at a small " Sweat Joint Casino in Vegas...due to some SPECTACULAR SHOOTING!!
    A Casino Patron replied: "Man.....you guys sure are lucky!!!

    James replied: " Yep, we seem to get lucky 100% of the time!

    LTWOQ!!!!
     
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  19. James Hall, Jun 14, 2018

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    That is all explained by
    "The more I practice the luckier I get"
    It's that consistent practice that allows for the constant
    Mesa Mafia "VAULT ASSAULT" someone mentioned in an earlier post
     
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    I'll be out of commission for a while: getting some medical work done.
     
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