Weather in the Carolinas just starting to creep up into the 70's. Drove with the top down the whole way. Glorious sunshine. Love the wind. Had to turn on the heat as I went over the mountains and the temp dipped. Listened to Miles Davis channel the whole way. Nice to *not* have sports talk on (football is over). Made the 162-mile drive to Cherokee in 2:34, very good time. Stopped at my favorite bbq joint in Asheville for lunch. Moe's had fried okra this time #winning Maggie Valley is dead right now. Ski season winding down and camping/motorcycles haven't begun to visit. All the little mom and pop joints are closed. Wonder how many are permanently shuttered from Covid lull. I park in the "oversized vehicle and bus loading" lot beneath the main deck, bypassing the ramps, the valet, the public. My usual spot is open. Park the car, toss the coffee cups, get all my tchotchkes together. Print my vouchers. Just 360 since it's the middle of the week. But it's a start. Six tables going. But unusual, because it's the back six instead of the front six. First time I haven't seen crapless table working in months. After posting here that Cherokee was 25-50 on Sunday, I was pleased to see three tables at 15. Was about to do my slow circle of all the tables to observe the flow, see who was dealing, before settling in when Eileen calls out, "Hey Papi!" from the very first table. Spot is available straight out next to her, so I guess that's my table today. Dealers have recently dropped mask requirement, so was nice to see her smiling face. Got a marker started, settle back against the rail of the empty table behind me and sip coffee while I wait. Table is choppy. People color up. Fresh blood throws in. I get my chips and start to work. I note the time: 1:37 pm. Momentary forray into the black and then a steady progression of missed opportunities for several hours. Playing ATS for 10-10-10 most shooters, 15-25-15 on my rolls. Need a 2 to complete the ATS. Miss. Need an 11. Miss. Need a five on my own roll for the small, lay it for 150 as hedge. Miss. Need 2 & 12 on a couple over the next few hours. All misses. Not much happening at other tables, no shouting, no good reason to switch. Enjoying my spot and the long conversations with dealers. Figure I'll wait it out and ride the upswing of the table's sine curve. Then the magic starts to percolate. I'm at baseline 137 across on guy straight out opposite me. Point is 5. He hits it. Sets a 4. Hits it. I start to loosen up a little. Two-way hardways 5-1. I press 6 and 8 30 every hit. Take/press take/press 5 and 9. My normal progression on 4 and 10 (25, 50, 100, 150, 200). He holds the dice. Hard ten hits. Automatically parlay both mine and dealers. Hard ten returns right back. 40-7 becomes 100-15. Hard ten. I'm shaking my head. I never get the hard 4 and 10's to hit. Go to 150-25. Meanwhile the place 10 is up to 300. I get cold feet and skim the cream off the top, make the hard ten look like 25-5. Soft ten. I reduce the place 10 to 100. Decide to just let this guy go as long as he wants. By the end of his roll I have my 6 and 8 up to 450 and 600. He only needs 2 and 12 and stick change and I turn off. Just in time. Table groans a little, but in that good way. Been a great roll, just couldn't go on forever. Dice move. Guy passes and it's my turn. All my bets are still up. Do I reduce back to 137 across or continue with house money pressed up from last shooter? I set the 9 and Eileen looks at me. "Are you working?" "Worky worky," I say. My dealer bets are up to 30 apiece on the place (starting with one 5 dollar tip on the six, player control, spreading and pressing), so she is working too. I hold my breath, I just got to get past the second roll. It's like trying to shove your grandmother's massive hutch across a wood floor. It resists until you give it just enough force to budge. Then it slides easily. I roll a six. Hutch is sliding. Game on. Magic is burbling around the table. Taking forever with every roll that's not a placed number because the guy next to me is betting the 11/12 every single roll and hopping hardways and tossing in chips late when I'm setting the dice and the dealers have to have a conference after every number to figure out this guy's payout, minus what he has in action. It's not phasing me. I am in a zen place. I sip my coffee. I watch the roulette table. I glance at the basketball game score at the tv in the pit. I fiddle with my tchotchke frog from Nola voodoo shop. Dice finally out. I go through my routine. One school against the wall, set the 3/1 3/2, rotate the dice a couple of times to get settled. Brush the table felt. Look up to make sure hands are tucked away across the expanse. Rotate the right die 45 degree forward with middle finger. Nice arc. Good landing. I'm in a good rhythm. Chips are everywhere, but I keep sticking my landing spot in the field and avoiding the odds of the five players opposite. Numbers are rolling. I am pressing. And then just as suddenly it's over. I blink a little. Realize I have to pee so friggin' bad. My chip racks are a mess. But I just leave it and walk to the men's room. Blissfull release. Glance at time. 9:47 pm. Good time to color up. Three-hour drive awaits. The count is a nice feeling. Chair has to pull out two ghost chips and toss them out with three pumpkins and one purple. I leave the red and whites as ATS for the dealers and head to the cage. Settle my marker. Drive home is sweet.
nice report....but 2 discouraging things I read...first....Im hoping when I get there in 3 months they have a 10 or 15 dollar table that I can get on....second....Im glad you mentioned bbq....but I looked at moes menu they dont serve baby back ribs...very dissapointing we enjoyed the pancake place along the little river there....and driving on blue ridge with top down...was nice..but it was close to 100 degrees every day we were there...who knew the mountains get 97 degree temps with 95 % humidity....shock to us
Interesting, all of the earmarks, almost a “forced” sort of way. Since you go to Cherokee often, have you ever seen the OPAQUE DICE, at their roll to win table?
von duck: The roll to win table was not operating. Cherokee uses blue and red dice. Perhaps the blue dice looked "opaque" resting on the blue digital screen? Long Island Man: I can help you plan your NC leg of your July roadtrip, and I can get you a comped room for the nights you are there. Or recommend some little motels nearby that are clean and straight-forward, look like something right out of the 1950's. Also, there's plenty to do in Biloxi and Ocean Springs when you're not gambling.
Six tables going, but the RTW was NOT one of them? Could TDVegas have been wrong? I guess anything’s possible. The Dice were NOT the F’kin blue ones, who do you think your talking to yacraps? The opaque dice are black and unmistakable. In your post you elude to being a “frequent flyer” at Cherokee, if that’s really so, I don’t see how you missed the OPAQUE DICE. Where did you drive in from, certainly not N.O. LA.
I appreciate the offer but staying there midweek we will do ok Seems they all of the sudden lowered prices after March first We don't need weekends we prefer them to do the bulk of driving as highway Hampton inns and holiday inns aren't bad on weekends And casino gaming limits are above my comfort level on weekends
but garraund if our paths cross when Im there, as Ill post when....Id be more than happy to let you treat to dinner or lunch. use some of those comp points
That guy has never been to Cherokee. If he had been, he’d know that they use OPAQUE DICE, on the “roll to win” table, and that the diamond mesh had been removed from that table, very early on, two months or so, after it opened. I think I know who it is.
well my babysitting job is over end of june.(the only thing that pisses me off about babysitting is that when I was 12 I made 2 dollars an hour to babysit, now I have to pay for the babys food, diapers, toys, etc, and I dont get paid)(just joshing, Id do anything for my grandson), anyway I should be in cherokee harrahs first week of july....Ill take notice of the dice for you. all I can say is the last table I played on in foxwoods, the dice were exact same as craps table....translucent red
First couple of months in Cherokee, they used what appeared to be standard table dice. Then, they brought in , the “BLACK” dice, and there went the neighborhood. Just guessing, but I’d say they are just slightly larger than the “normal” dice. Also, take note that the chairs at the RTW table, are attached to the table, as if it’s a factory installation. . There were a lot of subliminal messages in that guy’s post, some, only me, a few other people would know the meaning of, and the likely source of the post. You better hurry, sounds like that “table”, may be on short time. And it’s NOT because of “dice sliders”.
Liman, I'll be happy to buy you dinner when you're here. And very happy to have someone to roll dice with. von duck, there are no opaque dice in any casino in the United States. Certainly not at Cherokee. I glanced at the table yesterday and you're right: the original mesh is gone, it's more subtle now. I touched it, it's a little springy, so there's something there. Red dice, clear just like the rest of the dice in the casino. I don't really pay attention to that table because I don't play it. I do wave to whatever dealer got stuck there, because they hate it. I tease them that it's a punishment for something they must have done wrong. They don't get tipped, they have to enter every roll into the screen, there is no interaction with players. It's 8 hours of hell. In Cherokee, that machine is where the dregs of the regulars go to play when they have bottomed out their bankrolls at the standard tables. They'll sit there for hours milking their last 37 dollars. As far as your insistence that I have never been to Cherokee, you are mistaken. There's no other way to put it, since I'm there twice a week. Me not caring about some shitty video craps has somehow triggered you. As far as your ruminations as to my identity, you are mistaken. Since you're a fan of my "subliminal" writing, you can find me on EveryEdge sportsbetting forum. I've been posting there with the same moniker since 2001 with over 10k posts. I love that place and have made some really great friends there. But football season is over, and most posters there don't know anything about craps. I was hoping to be able to write about my trips on this forum and be part of a table gaming community.
You’re not fooling me. You are a worthless shill, most likely Mssthis1. You’re assertion that I was mistaking the blue dice for opaque dice really pissed me off, and by the way, they have also used the yellow dice at Cherokee. I know who you really are. If in fact they have stopped using the opaque dice, maybe it is because somebody got on a craps forum, and questioned why they would be using them to begin with. There is NFW you could know if the opaque dice are in use in any other casino in the U.S. I once saw a brown opaque set, in use at the Goldstrike casino in Jean NV. Those dice also had the corners rounded off.
What am I shilling? And I'm "worthless" now? Because I posted a trip report? I think you'll have more fun trolling other posters, because I don't suffer fools lightly.
To most, maybe it looks like a trip report. You and I (and probably a couple more), know what it really was.
you know when I go into a casino, its rare if the table I want is close to me or elevator, I probably wont go walking around looking at other stuff. I might follow my wife around a bit but she usually sticks to machines close by elevator . I missed bubbles in some casinos because I never went into the meaty part of the casino, just played at the table and was happy with 5 dollar tables with 10 times odds..
Yeah, in some casinos, you might miss some stuff, but, At Cherokee, you will NOT miss the RTW game, it’s right on the point, at the front of the craps pit. First of 9 tables. Not obscure at all, and any craps player will stop and take a look, you would I would and so would that Garraund guy. He knew exactly what the mesh was called, even though he claims no interest in the game. I’ve actually SEEN the mesh, and even saw the small tear in it that caused them to remove it, but I still never knew, exactly what it was called. His assertion that I could have mistaken the blue dice for OPAQUE, was ridiculous and insulting. There is a message hidden from most, in that post. I won’t tell you what it is, but I can tell you, only an insider, would know enough, to be able to insert the message. There is something, (maybe everything), bullshit about that guy. Just take my word for it, if you really don’t know.
