" Chasing Nano Trends"

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  1. Dave G Ct, Dec 9, 2017

    Dave G Ct

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    MP played in the " right here- right now moment as a DI.What did that mean? Well for one thing having upsized bets on your 2 numbers that you had a documented edge on.It does not mean betting on the flavor of the day.Zig zagging your betting over the entire spectrum.Also chasing the tiny first indicators of a trend, in this case a nano trend .And of course foregoing that foolish contention that DI gravitate towards " Taking what the table is giving you"
    What you take is you hitting your AP bets on a consistant basis . Nothing more and nothing less.
    No it isn't changing your dice set or making dramatic changes to your toss mechanics. In other words time to step up and take some responsibility for your play.
    Yes put the Xanax away and develop that quiet confidence that is required.No excuses 101.
     
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    I understand his point.........however, if my personal throw has been producing a high percentage of 6 and 8's............but on one particular visit to the casino.........my throw is producing few 6/8 but a lot of 9's and 10's..........possibly due to any reasons from position at the table to set to grip to pre-throw to throw to landing zone, etc.........do you not take advantage of that result (9/10) and make your bets accordingly? Or do you try to find that part(s) of the mechanics that is not working to produce the 6/8's.......even though it may take some time (if ever) to find it?
     
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    Your toss is table dependent. Every table has different bounce characteristics. Chart every table on your tosses. Here is where the come bet MAY be of use. Place the 6 and 8. If the come bets travel to the 9 and 10, you can stay with the come or buy the 9, 10 with the come/odds payout on the second hit.
     
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  4. Dave G Ct, Dec 9, 2017

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    We are talking about a player who buys in with 2 grand and has a betting spread of over $800 a hand.He is using the V- 2 and betting 4&10' s which he will live and die with. Looks at the big picture .Remember he bets on himself and could not care if Jimmy is killing the 5 lol.
     
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  5. Mssthis1, Dec 9, 2017

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    You must not of read the chapter in the book yet where his toss was shit so he miraculously decided to switch to the don't's and was getting rich until he OD'd on caffeine and decided to take a break before he flamed out. LOL.
     
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  6. Dave G Ct, Dec 9, 2017

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    Yes you are right about the tables characteristics which then you can vary your lz.Way MP played with his session br you had 3 shots to get it right.You know as well as I he would not use the come bet as a hedge ( out of the Heavy playbook?)
     
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  7. Dave G Ct, Dec 9, 2017

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    The " early days " where such transgressions can be overlooked.lol
     
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    Here is an example.Few weeks ago I was playing the 6&8 or betting the 4&10.If I stuck with one approach I would have won but I zigged and zagged and of course lost. You learn
     
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    So, Dave, what happens when you don't zig and zag and you still lose?
     
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  10. HornHiYo, Dec 9, 2017

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    If you keep on second guessing yourself you’ll end up looney like your bus driver.
    Mad Professor wrote in his book “If the shooter is tossing random results, then a come bet with odds is always superior to a place bet.”
    OAP says it all with; “Ya bets your quarter and ya takes your chances.”
    Better luck next time!
     
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    instead of waiting for 3 or 4 rolls to get on the 9 or 10 after the come out?
     
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    If your throw is producing 9s and 10s bet the 9s and 10s
    why try to change the outcome ? , bet what the dice give you
     
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    Sounds like Dave tried that a number of times and when he did the dice gave him something else.
    Chasing dice is similar to chasing bets or switching from Dos to Don’ts on a choppy table. It can be not always be a winning move. .
     
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  14. Dave G Ct, Dec 9, 2017

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    My reply
    Get your toss in order !
     
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  15. HornHiYo, Dec 9, 2017

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    Why not take what your toss is giving you??
     
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    I believe if you use a particular set you should hit the Primary numbers or why use it.Off course you will have off axis dominates which one may exploit.I am happy to bet the 4&10 and expect to hit them.Does not always happens but you focus on the big picture.
     
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  17. HornHiYo, Dec 9, 2017

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    If a toss is consistently reliable, but conditions change the signature outcomes to something different why not stay with the consistently reliable toss and just change the bet to match the new signature?
     
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    Why not?....
    Because MP said if ya use the 2V, ya should hit 4's, & 10's, & if ya use the 3V's, ya should hit 6, & 8's DAMMIT!
    Ya simply don't question a Dice Influencer with a SRR of 28, & a stunningly high On Axis percentage of 85!

    Until YOU can toss hands of 42, 38, 12, 2, 58, 65, & 33, all in ONE session, & have a whole Casino of patrons follow YOU across the street to the next Casino to make coins off of your stellar shooting.....SHUT THE FUCK UP, you second rate talent! Lol
     
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  19. Dave G Ct, Dec 9, 2017

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    If I were faced with say difficult conditions I would just bet inside and go from there.Maybe you are just getting random numbers only.Who knows
     
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    Dave, I just hung up the phone with MP. He said to tell you to put his Green suit in the Cleaners for him, & to feed the cat. Change the litter box, too. The keys to his apartment are under the door mat.

    Oops.....almost forgot! MP wants ya to check his mail, too. He said it might be another year, or so until his return. He said it's been raining 4's, & 10's, & he's gonna continue to shoot the Casino's dicks straight in the Dirt!
     
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