CEG Dealer school Utube vids

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  1. Dave G Ct, Dec 6, 2019

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    Not your typical canned casino advice PL w max odds & 2 come bets. These guys are aggressive and go after a big score in dice, blackjack, and Roulette.
    They are into strictly place bets with no PL and love the right off the bat triple press.$6 or 8 to $90 in just 3:hits. They give a wide range of options and are very entertaining!
    A major Go
     
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  2. yacraps, Dec 6, 2019

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    Yeah I have seen his videos he definitely goes for the jugular..Dave we have a member here (color up) who does a interview with the guy your talking about its kinda cool he talks about dealing the old bird games in his early dealing days
     
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    Dave O check it out
     
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    Great!
     
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    Great interview.Cashed out 24 grand! Good idea to have a couple low price tables to encourage new players getting interested in dice.
     
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    Part 2 interview
     
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    Yes, the almost always successful triple press of an easy to hit box number. Looks like a sure winner to me.

    Why risk $12 on the six to win only $94 on three hits when you can risk only $1 for two hits on the twelve for $900?
     
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    Why because you have a better chance turning those 2 hits into 8 hits and get a major score. Which these dealers say" eight hits on a number we see every day'
    You notice KoKo these dealers have no use for the lowest H.A. bet the Noble P
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    BTW Koko
    Last time this dealer played he cashed out plus $24000. actually it was a little over $23000 but with the change he hit s slot win to reach $24000. When you are lucky you are lucky!
     
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    Fools and their money are soon parted. Dealers are the last people I'd take craps advice from. They're worse than used car salesmen.

     
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  11. TDVegas, Dec 7, 2019

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    A craps dealer not fond of bubble craps....

    Why am I not surprised?

    This guy sounds fairly on the ball....if he cannot get his bets down in the allotted time....then something is seriously wrong. He either has 20 bets working thru some convoluted hedge (which he says is a sucker game) or he has no clue how to work a touch screen.

    Both scenarios are questionable.

    There is more than enough time for anyone to get their bets down. If he's pounding drinks or chatty between rolls....any player will encounter problems. If he's focused on his bets and his play and has some basic knowledge of touch screen wagering....there is more than enough time to get down many bets.

    He makes an issue that he likes the social aspect to a craps table....which probably tells me this is a guy who will talk your ear off.
     
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    Well let's see. Chance of two twelves, consecutively, 36 X 36 = 1296. So, $1296 invsted for a return of $961. That comes to 961/1296 = 74.15 %
    Now for the dealer play, investing the same $1296. That gives you 104 starts, yielding 104 X .454545 = 47.27 first bet winners, so your + $ 94.54 on first bet overruns. 47.2727 X .454545 = 21.48 first press winners, and an additional $85.92 in overruns. 21.4876 X .454545 = 9.767 bets reaching the $90 level plus another 14 X 9.767 = $136.73 in overruns. So 9.767 bets going for the third press winner , 9.767 X .454545 = 4.44 successful triples at 195 each = $865.71. So $94.54 + 86.92 + 136.73 + 865.71 = $1182.9. So, 1182.9/1296 = 91.27% return, which is substantially better than a 74.15% return. You lose JOE, pay the dealers. :)
     
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    You saw this, or this is what the dealer claimed?
     
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    :confused: :cool: Wow, a person that "talks" that does not like bubble craps? :D I'm surprised he couldn't find a better "reason" not to. :) I sure as hell can! :eek:
     
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    Your reasons are degenerate type excuses. His aren’t. I don’t agree with his reasoning about time issues. I do agree that if he likes the social aspect, likes to talk during his play...bubble probably isn’t for him.

    Like I said, your reasons are more degenerate gambler type excuses.

    “machine is rigged”
    “Magnets”
    “Game is rigged”
    “Air bursts control outcome”
    “Software calculates which to pay”

    etc.

    List is endless. My advice to those people is stay away from ANY gaming machine. In fact, stay out of the casino. You’re 6 hours away anyway. No worries.
     
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    These are YOUR words, but I'll respond to each accusation.
    ("Machine is rigged") Yes, this much is true.
    ("Magnets") This would be unlikely, being that magnetic fields are detectable, even with something as simple as a compass.
    ("game is rigged") we already covered this.
    ("Airbursts") that's an interesting theory, but I've never seen anything to indicate this. I'll check on this one.
    ("Software") this is definitely, part of the fix, but not likely in the manner you describe. It's more of a "second chance" by way of late "no-roll" and could be hidden in the software pretty easily.
    One indicator, that's pretty easy for most to see, is the complete novices that play the game, and also the fact, that "good" players, avoid it. :cool: One really interesting thing I've noticed, is that "Asians" for the most part, avoid this game, like the plague.
    My reasons are based on my own observations, and they are my opinion, whereas your "Masters" GIVE YOU, your opinion. :confused:
    One more thing, YOU have no clue, as to how far I live from any casino, and I'm not going to give you any. :cool:
     
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    Ok....nothing to debate. You can't be convinced or swayed or even a "well, maybe you've got something there".

    As many times as I've seen what you might term suspect rolls...late flips, seemingly mind of its own, defies normal thinking.....

    The results have benefited and not benefited players. Anytime I've asked those who play both versions (live table and bubble) consistently as to which gets better results (less worse?:confused:)...I usually get a shoulder shrug.

    Sometimes non verbal answers are the most accurate.
     
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    It is true, that some of the late "no rolls" favor the player, but it is NO INDICATION, of a straight game. Absolutely the fix will sometimes favor the player, and that is very logical, and follows the "shear a sheep" "skin a sheep" analogy. Of course, the machine does not always beat you, but when it wants to, it almost always does.
    As for the tables, that's a more difficult analysis, but, I believe it is fair to say, that if a casino is cheating at one game, then it is likely, that they are cheating at ALL of their games, if only a little.
    In the ten years or so that I played in Nevada, I never really thought I was being cheated. In Biloxi though, I was convinced that the game was somehow rigged, and it was there, that I noticed that the "Spinners" were very few, and far between, and this was before so many people started throwing, like (DAVE). By the way, the Biloxi casinos are run by the same conglomerates, as the Vegas casinos, so. :confused: I can say one thing for certain, the game of Blackjack, changed drastically, after the mid 80s, so much so, that I quit playing it, entirely, whereas prior to that, I played it exclusively. And I've won pretty big at blackjack, a lot bigger than I ever have at craps.
    One more time, to any that care to listen, "if somebody tells you, that the bubble (Aruze) is a straight game, I recommend that you use "extreme prejudice" when evaluating their integrity. I have absolutely nothing to gain by lying to anybody, and it is NOT my intention to do so. :cool:
     
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    Gee Van Duck siting statistics! Guess he passes the relevance test.Probation lifted!
     
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    Thanks Dave, it's great to be "off notice", so much so, I think I'll venture to the nearest casino, and make a modest withdraw, to celebrate. :) :cool:
     
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