Casino Mistake? Or mine?

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  1. James Hall, Jan 9, 2017

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    I haven't played Atlantic City for many many years so I am not familiar with their rules
     
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  2. Edward-ky, Jan 9, 2017

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    The only place I can remember where they are off unless called is Harrahs murphy.
     
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  3. Onautopilot, Jan 9, 2017

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    6 to 1.....one way to win out of 36 possibilities, a 3-3, six ways to lose on a seven out of 36 possibilities.
     
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  4. TDVegas, Jan 9, 2017

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    Where in Vegas are they working on come out rolls?
     
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  5. $nakeEye$, Jan 9, 2017

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    :)
     
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    I can't think of a place in Vegas I have played where they DON'T work on the come out roll
     
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  8. The Craps_Player, Jan 10, 2017

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    Yeah, 6-1 for the odds if they don't take down the hard 6 even if a soft 6 is rolled. With the payout at 9-1, that's not a bad player edge !!!!
     
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  9. basicstrategy777, Jan 10, 2017

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    in the east, hardways are off on comeout.......in the west they are working.

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  10. wonko33, Jan 10, 2017

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    I've had the same happen to me but with darkside bets; one dealer one time would just leave some of them up when the numbers were made.

    She would remember to take down my bets if it was a "don't pass" ( I guess it is easy to remember because it's the point) but would forget my "don't come" bets and my lay bets.

    I get worried when this happens sometimes because I don't want the casino to think I am in cahoots with the dealer or something.
     
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  11. OffAndOn, Jan 10, 2017

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    Also at Mohegan Sun over New Years: point was 4 and loud guy at table kept yelling for hardway 4, for which he had a black chip bet. Point came in soft and I was shocked they let the hundred stay up there, especially since he had brought so much attention to the bet. Bad mistake.
     
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    my guess is either its a relative of a dealer or pit boss or theres a secret partnership going on somewhere.
    100 dollar hardway bet would draw some observation from both stick and pit crew.
     
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    Was that his only bet when the 4 was rolled? Did he also buy the 4 or bet 4s hopping, or call it off before the roll or quietly place a black chip on the table and say "back up"? Mistakes definitely happen on the table, but a black chip on a hardway that lost would be an odd one for the crew to "miss". I've seen a dealer call off several bets that would have lost except the bettor had completely stepped away from the table (@15 feet) before the roll and was on the phone, thus 'justifying" the "no action" call. Probably didn't hurt the bettor had been making bets for the crew. .
     
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    yeah, especially if there is only one black chip bettor at a table, it will always draw some eyeballs from the pit. NOT HEAT, just an eyeball or two.
     
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  15. random_roller, Jan 11, 2017

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    And just to confuse players, in Chicagoland it varies by casino.
     
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  16. OffAndOn, Jan 11, 2017

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    No, he had other bets on the table, including $100 on pass line and $500 behind, and was really loud on every roll about all kinds of stuff, but definitely referenced the 'Hondo on hard 4' several times, which is why I thought for sure they wouldn't miss taking it down when the 4 came soft. I didn't think it was intentional, just a bad mistake. Crew was pretty young. I think lots of casino staff called in sick that day (new years).
     
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    a possible 1000 dollar error.
    peanuts to a casino, but if it was caught on camera, I bet someone would be held responsible for it.
    6 eyeballs should have seen it, possibly 8, cant imagine how they missed it.
     
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  18. Edward-ky, Jan 11, 2017

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    Probably because you don't play in vegas.
     
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  19. James Hall, Jan 11, 2017

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  20. James Hall, Jan 11, 2017

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    Edward KY has tried so hard to copy TDVegas' life style and mannerisms so long
    and with such precision , that like TDV he has become so infatuated with me and my activities
    he thinks he knows what I do and when . He is copying TD's fanaticism with my frequency of play
    He memorizes TD's mantras "Talk talk talk no can do

    neither of them and some of the other chunkers / random guys have not figured out yet
    people are playing who have learned to win the C/Rs would have you believe you can only win with LUCK & VARIANCE
    fall for that , if you want they are all BS
    they are beat by the math not by the game
    they play a defensive game , they play to break even or lose less
    Craps like most things in life has to be won by offense , going after thye win
    you CANNOT WIN trying not to lose
    You MUST play for the big win , when the opportunity presents itself
    Most players and certainly most on this forum never win big enough on the wins to offset the losses
    I cannot understand for the life of me why those players even play the game
    they play the same way session after session day in day out with the same old losing strategy
    they lose nearly every time doing the same old things
    and they hope that somehow the losing will stop and they will begin to win
    AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN GUYS

    when you keep doing the same old thing all the time hoping for things to change , that

    "IS THE GREATEST EXERCISE IN FUTILITY KNOWN TO MANKIND"

    I have bad news guys if you want your results to change
    you are going to have to change what you are doing

    "LEARN TO WIN OR QUIT"

    but for gawd sake qhit giving all that money to the casinos
    one day you are going to figure it out

    you think gambling is fun even when you lose ??
    more bad news
    LOSING SUCKS
    LTWOQ
    WINNING DOESN'T SUCK
    LOSING SUCKS
    WINNING DOESN'T SUCK
     
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