Casino Grade Table

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  1. KokomoJoe4, Jul 29, 2016

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    Putting this question in Bankroll Management because it involves spending money, probably a lot.

    The Mrs. has twisted my arm enough to make me realize I actually want to get a new house. Unfortunately, our downsizing will involve a bigger house, and an extra garage. With the son off to college, this is obviously a necessity.

    I'm going to insist on a craps table for the new shack. How much is this going to cost me? Where to get it? I realize I'm risking this turning me into a dice influencer, but if I'm moving I'm going to insist on one, and will probably be able to get it if I kiss enough ass.
     
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  2. Edward-ky, Jul 29, 2016

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    Move to Mesa and you can use James tables and then he can turn you into a ahole to. :)
     
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  3. tabletop123, Jul 29, 2016

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    Koko, try American Gaming Supply if you decide on a new one! They are quite expensive, though! Your second option is to try E-Bay. I found my 14 footer on E-Bay for under $3500, loaded it on the back of one of my Tow Trucks, & hauled it from Chicago to Georgia! Dont know how quickly you can read the arrays before the Stickman gathers the dice, but practicing reading the arrays on a real table definitely helps in the Casinos! I recall that when i was first learning Linaway's stuff, & i was the shooter, I NEVER could read the array before the stickman scooped the dice up, so i would "Freeze Frame" the landing mentally, & when the dice were pushed to me, i would set them exactly as they landed, & read them that way! Lol. Those were the good old days! Lol
     
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  4. KokomoJoe4, Jul 29, 2016

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    I get the outcome so fast that I scare myself, and have been taught a much easier way to get this information that doesn't even involve seeing :confused:. You know as well as I do that this is great information to have, but at times still isn't worth a shit to the bottom line.

    What am I going to be paying for a new table? That's the only type that is going to be allowed into the wife's new house :eek:.
     
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  5. James Hall, Jul 29, 2016

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    here in Arizona is American Table Games
    they manufacture them and the get about $3000 for them
    several of our guys have bought them
    They are about 5 miles from my house
    look them up on the internet
    Americab Table Games
    talk to Dustin
     
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    Edward Ky
    is A HOLE
    redneck for very smart and nice guy
    if it is that's me
     
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  7. KokomoJoe4, Jul 29, 2016

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    TY I will.
     
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  8. James Hall, Jul 29, 2016

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    I just sold one of mine for $2200 I bought out of a Las Vegas casino
    3 years ago I sold one that came out of MGM Grand fo $1800
    I
     
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  9. Edward-ky, Jul 29, 2016

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    OK why would that matter to me? And yes I am a asshole no argument there.
     
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  10. tabletop123, Jul 29, 2016

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    $3,000 is an excellent Price for a NEW 12-14 ft table! I purchased mine "Used", & paid a little too much for it, because i was so excited to finally have a chance to get one in my home! Contrary to popular belief, i have been teaching my Wife how to toss dice over the last couple of weeks, & she actually LOVES it! I actually had the wife with me on my last 2 casino visits, & she is very excited about my hit & run ,15-30 minutes method of play! I actually had her at a $5 table with me & won $117 in 10 minutes of play & colored up! My wife says: "Let's try to win a little more"! I said: "We will, honey, but it'll be during the NEXT 15-30 minute session"! Lol
     
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  11. random_roller, Jul 29, 2016

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    I looked at getting one a few years ago. Make sure you understand the shipping & handling (crating) charges and installation charges (if applicable). Those items can add up.

    You might also want to save some funds to buy the riding mower you'll need for the huge yard at the new place, lol.
     
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  12. $nakeEye$, Jul 29, 2016

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    KJ4 -

    Speak to BigBen who is on this board - he will gladly send you pix of his " baby " - and offer unwanted advice o_O -

    He special ordered a 12' table from American Table Games -

    He had his customized where he has 2 stick positions - and no box / bank position -

    One half of the table is traditional felt -

    The other half is micro fiber -

    He resides in Long Island - so he can clue you about shipping etc. -

    Your own table is a worthwhile investment if you are serious about beating this game ! ;)

    $...eE..$
     
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  13. Linaway, Jul 30, 2016

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    Kokomojoe4,

    Ask and ye shall receive. I just a few days ago heard from an acquaintance that one of the tables at the ACA shindig might be for sale.

    You need to call Superrick. He would know about these things. You might want to deal with this quickly, Dave may try to buy it out from under your to replace his cracker box shooting station. OTOH, might not be anything to be concerned about, he only has $75!!
     
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  14. James Hall, Jul 30, 2016

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    one of our guys bought one frpm American table games
    and had it built with no dealer dips so he could practice from either side
    no extra cost
    I always just take the guys to the factory just 5 miles from my house
     
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  15. Linaway, Jul 30, 2016

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    [QUOTE="KokomoJoe4, post: 116150, member:

    I'm going to insist on a craps table for the new shack. How much is this going to cost me? Where to get it?[/QUOTE]


    KOKO,

    Check your PM
     
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  16. KokomoJoe4, Jul 31, 2016

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    Just curious what DI guys think of this in terms of "benefits" to the owner.

    As someone who likes the games enough, I just want a nice trophy at home. More or less a conversation piece. I've never been a practice shooter, and would not enjoy fantasy games where I win $50K throwing all those repeating box numbers in a row.

    I'm thinking that if one were to become an "expert shot" on the home table, that and a cup of coffee would set you back a couple of bucks.

    Doesn't an expert shot need to developed while one is at play with money in action? If so, this will involve both tables and dice you do not have at home. Seems to me you need to observe and learn on the fly in real time.
     
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  17. James Hall, Jul 31, 2016

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    let me give you an observation or two
    You refer to fantasy games if you were to think of that rather in terms of , practicing your betting strategies , you can find which ones work the best for you
    I / we set aside part of one evening a week to practice betting strategies as to how they line up with different sets we might use , as different sets will generally
    produce different outcomes on average , then when in Vegas we have a starting place and if we need to adjust we have an idea how to do so

    I was a golf professional for many years I played and then later I taught , I taught people on every level of the game from amateurs to professional
    one thing I stressed constantly is the fact tht you cannot develop a game during tournament play ,you must do that on the practice range by hitting shot after shot after shot
    it may seem that their might be no correlation between golf and craps , there is and it is this
    If you are trying to develop a skill as precise as delivering the dice to the end of the table , in a precise manner to an exact spot , it takes repetition
    doing it over and over
    in your home is a much better place to reinforce your game than in a casino will ever be
     
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  18. $nakeEye$, Jul 31, 2016

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    James -

    WHAT kind of SH*T are you talking about -

    PRACTICE -

    WHAT is the SENSE of THAT -

    Does NOT the US Army, Navy and Marine Corps -

    Thrust their rookies directly into the heat of battle -

    WITHOUT even the remotest inkling as to which end of the rifle or bayonet should be pointed AWAY from them ? -

    Practice is futile -

    How can one practice something which is totally random ?

    You will have better luck pissing into the head wind from the bow of a cigarette speed boat going WOT-

    Wide Open Throttle - aka - Full Speed Ahead - for you land lubbers ! -

    And not getting ' pissed on ' -

    Than to try to ' educate ' some of these ' math know-it-alls ' !

    $...eE..$
     
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  19. BigBen, Aug 1, 2016

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    Hi KokomoJoe4,
    $nake is correct, I have a custom 12 foot table.
    I actually had it built to my specs by USA Gaming though, just a few years ago.
    I'd be happy to give you more specifics offline if you'd like.

    IMHO, having a REAL table at home is a beautiful thing!!! You can practice any time you'd like.
    Shit, there are times where I'd be sleeping or watching TV and think of a "toss adjustment" or different betting strategy, so I'd just go to my table and test 'em out. LOL...

    Big investment? YES, but WELL worth it (as long as you USE IT!).
    My table has paid for itself several times over.

    BigBen
     
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  20. Dice Dolly, Aug 7, 2016

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    a couple of you "gentlemen" crack me up! I have to wonder at the members who are constantly negative about "dice control", "7 avoidance" or for you really cool guys "DI". If people believe that a man can throw a 3" ball 90' into the 5" pocket of a man squatting behind a 12" plate at 90 MPH while making it curve 3', why can you not believe that someone can have relative success throwing a 3/4" square 8 feet and avoid coming up 7's more than 36 rolls? having your own table and practicing your throw, dice sets and betting strategies is crucial if you are serious about the game. If not, go in hot and chunk 'em on down the table. I'll save my bets for my throws and the throws of the people I travel with. just my opinion. and yes, I have my own table...
     
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