Casino Dice... The new Two Armed Bandit

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  1. SevenOut, Jul 9, 2019

    SevenOut

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    Come on folks and gather around the campfire for a good story.

    Since dealing with mechanical slot machines used up into the 1950's, the majority were Three Reels with 20 fruit symbols on each reel. So 20 x 20 x 20 gives you EXACTLY 8,000 possible combinations. Some were FOUR reels, but you are already confused so we will cut it to discussing only 3 Reels.

    Cherry, Orange, Plum, Bell and Bars. So three fruit and then some other crap to confuse the ignorant.

    But... some reels had more cherries, or oranges, or bells, or plums and even Jackpot Bars. Some odds maker sat there and could determine by moving... FRUIT... around on the reel strips you could have nearly 100% payout or 65% payouts on machines that looked identical... but the REELS had different symbols and arranged so that the owner of the machine could get a set of reels with different percentages of payouts within ten minutes.

    You could only see three when these reels quit spinning and your mind was already spinning trying to count twenty before they slowed down.

    Better yet. Put a generous paying reel assembly in a machine for a few days and then that morning, swap out the reels for a tight payout set and... presto... the ONE Armed Bandit.

    Of course since Slot Machines were illegal to set up in public places, almost all were in private clubs and organizations that only allowed members. Even the sheriff was a member and... well, played the slots in the back room.

    Now the NEW Two Armed Bandit. Craps Dice. OOOOOOeeeeee bend over and sample the fruits of labor.

    Suckers, a kind of fish that sucks mud for profit, can also become a Craps Player. Human looking, but still part fish.

    These two cubes confuse the shit out of some. So many combinations and hard to sniff them out. Then the Craps Table layout is very colorful with pretty logos, lots of closed in numbers and combinations of numbers and numbers... just oozing out of the gook and beer and... well, you got it... the murky minds of part Human and part Sucker going to work... work very well in a loose sense of the word for top or bottom feeder fish.

    If you lost your Bankroll... it is them damn Two Armed Bandit cubes that are, well:

    1- Biased to Hell and back
    2- Colors are confusing and Biased to Hell and back
    3- They feel slick and look shiny making them hard to hold between two fingers
    4.- Just maybe I can hold these things in a special way and cast them out for... catching something

    You got it. Sucker Fishing is a sport of the Casino. Oh boy the Table's Bank is HUGE and smells like rotten French Cheese just sitting there and you, my friend, want to take a nibble or a big bite out of that stash.

    Welcome to the world of One and Two Armed Bandits. If there was a table game that can reel them in... you are standing there, your zipper half way up and your belt dangling like you grew a large sausage of some sort.

    Stand back and let the pros help you a little. They need to save your soul and it will only cost you a bit of your Bankroll... and cause you to go Blind to those who are telling you... something good.

    I call it Dice Fondling... but some can get carried away at a full table of... sucker baiters.

    Like... before you go waste your time at a Craps Table... check YOUR reels. They are full of Fruit and you are a Banana at the moment. Not a cherry or a ring a ding bell.
     
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  2. SevenOut, Jul 12, 2019

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    Yea... I know. No personal attacks. No insults against DI, Dice Bias or Dice Chuckers. No handfuls of crisp $100 bills. Nothing at all.

    Dice are actually much simpler than a Casino Slot Machine. Win, Lose or No Action taken.

    Electronic Slot Machines are what I call... well, maybe not as it would be vulgar... but you can be dead and operate a slot machine, as long as you have credits. Much like the subject of Dice Bias... a dead subject to most.

    Now real thinking games are Video Poker, Keno and the Sports Wagering.

    Sports wagering... involves sports and you can be overweight and participate. That is all I understand...

    Keno... you have to push buttons and add credits. Eighty numbers to chose from can be confusing to a Craps Player... who exaggerates they are working with 36 numbers... which is a lie. Eleven is close enough for Craps. That is enough for the fingers on each hand and the special purpose that is telling you than something is going to break loose sooner than later... kind of feeling. Stand back stickman... This DI is ready to cut loose... and the Restrooms are outside next to your SUV.

    Keno with 80 numbers is much too difficult for a Craps Player. Too many decisions.

    Video Poker. You can hold 'em, fold 'em or screw with the machines RNG for unusual results. Mostly losers, but Craps Players understand that very well. Don't you?

    I have to go by the numbers. There are a 100 to ONE with slots to Craps players. If there were a vote, the Craps Tables would be tossed into a ditch and replaced with those $%@&* noisy Buffalo machines. Drive you out of your @$%&! mind. Obviously, some of us are not hard of hearing.

    Craps requires some mathematical ability. Usually ignored on this Forum as there are only lying winners and losers hanging around the table. When you have lots of chips laying around, they are tossed to INCREASE the chance of winning, something. Usually not, but that is the idea.

    Thinking with the 'special purpose' is a severe disadvantage at a Casino. Use that thick skull, instead.

    If someone is tossing even numbers... why wager on odd numbers? Are you that dense?

    If a DI is setting for the Hard Ways and hitting Limp Ways at the BlackJack table... move away from this shooter.

    You can get intoxicated reading some of the posts on the Forum. Like this one. I have never met so many winners. ...well never met, but stood next to many tables where the only Winners were not able to get a spot at the table. They do not even understand when people leave a busy table... they were probably losers... and then you step in... happy to get into this #$%& game?

    Alright. The Buffet and doughnuts on points and coupon at Green Valley Ranch were great. Those of you flashing cash... better make that car and house payment first... the streets in Las Vegas are full of... well, Gamblers.
     
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  3. eagleeye2, Jul 12, 2019

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    SevenOut,

    Your comment that Slots are ""a 100 to ONE with slots to Craps players"" sounds about right.

    BUT, does it really mean that Slot Players are more intelligent than CRAPS Players???

    I for one, Never Play Slots, as they are a sure PROFIT MAKER for the Casino...

    At least with CRAPS, one can WIN the majority of the time...

    eagleeye2
     
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  4. SevenOut, Jul 13, 2019

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    Response to EE2, Post #3:


    Slot Machine Players: 0%
    Craps Players: 100%

    Keno Players: 35%
    Craps Players: 65%

    Video Poker Players: 50%
    Craps Players: 50%

    Poker/Blackjack/Roulette/other Table Game Players: 70%
    Craps Players: 30%

    All eventually lose their Bankroll. Most gamblers 'play for time'. Keno can be played the longest and be losing each time. Craps the fastest game to lose Bankroll, or make money. Although Craps Players like to Play for Time and do not comprehend that.... the longer you play, the more you pay.

    Overall. All are limited by TIME. Time eventually brings down the best Poker Players, as well. I do not know of any form of gambling where time is to a Player's Advantage.

    Maybe someone can recommend some. My numbers are pure biased visual estimates. Yours may be closer to the truth.
     
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    SevenOut,

    Just what do you base your PROJECTIONS above on???

    One cannot deny that Poker & Blackjack require SKILL, as does CRAPS; assuming one wants to be be betting on other than RANDOM ROLLS!!!

    Thus you need some assumptions to generate your PROJECTIONS, just what were they???

    eagleeye2
     
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  6. SevenOut, Jul 13, 2019

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    EE2- I am the FIRST person to attempt such a study of this magnitude. My data points are stored in a locked container under the Eiffel Tower in Paris, under 24 hour security.

    What are YOUR projections? Then there will be two qualified to be... experts.

    I left out BINGO. If you want a hundred or several hundred elderly ladies kicking the you know what out of you... keep away from BINGO. They are 'professionals'.

    Unlike part time Craps Players.
     
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