cash-out vouchers for bubble craps

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  1. TDVegas, Dec 2, 2017

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    Obviously there has to be some trust issues. My lawyer will hold the 100k. The system has to work. I have to be honest and release the 100k after an agreed upon "proof of strategy" (win amount threshold?)
     
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  2. Craps Poopshoot, Dec 2, 2017

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    Find any Bubble Craps machine here in Vegas, and you will find a group of regulars that play it everyday. The 'Shoot to win' is the most popular.
    I have hanged around them long enough to pick up a few "KEY" issues about Bubble Craps:
    1. Highly volatile.
    2. Choppy most of the time
    3. Casino gives very little points/comps for play (if any at all)
    The high volatility in my humble opinion is due to the rounded corners of the dice. Oh the dice are fair enough, and if you track them they will over time form the perfect Two Dice pyramid. It is just that it will take far more rolls for the pyramid to form than with sharp corner dice, thus the high volatility. The board game community has already studied both types of dice and have concluded that rounded corner dice are more volatile. For example you would expect a 8 or 6 hit within every 4 rolls, however with rounded corner dice you would see the 6 & 8 hit with in ever 6 to 8 rolls, you also see far more Craps rolls with rounded corner dice than with sharp corner dice. This is due to the volatility!

    From my observation the regulars like Bubble craps because:
    • Seats
    • The terminal allows more exotic betting
    • Privacy - nobody knows what you are doing
    • More of a community at the Bubble than at the tables
    Again, in my humble opinion (meaning I am not stating any facts), the locals are not stupid people. They won't play any casino games that are consistent losers. You don't see a locals community around tri-poker!

    In my own observations and knowing the locals who play bubble craps, many just wait for the bubble to trend in a direction that they can profit on. What they practice is penitence and persistence. Many of them will just read News on their phones waiting, some listen to music or just talk on the phone while waiting. Waiting can be a few hours, but when they see a direction they are on it!

    Is it worth it?
    The locals seem to think so.
     
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  3. yacraps, Dec 2, 2017

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    J B the good thing after lead is turned to gold it makes the best fishing line weight....
     
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  4. dustedone, Dec 2, 2017

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    Yes trust issue is in the forefront. It is understandable....
     
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  5. von duck, Dec 2, 2017

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    Don't mess with this "mole" or any of his cronies, you might as well give the strategy to the manufacturers.:confused: Now, what kind of bankroll are we talking about? I got few bucks put back for a rainy day. :)
     
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  6. dustedone, Dec 2, 2017

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    An investment might not mean money? Or a bankroll? As is a level of trust, don t need or want a rogue partnership.
     
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  7. von duck, Dec 2, 2017

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    Explain to me, how the "rounded corners" will cause the dice to be slower to form the perfect pyramid. The rounded corners do "facilitate", the effect, but in no way cause the effect. What causes the delay in achieving the pyramid, is obvious to any astute player. All of this being said, but guess what, there IS an Achilles heal<, and there are some "foul beings" that know what it is. :)
     
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  8. von duck, Dec 2, 2017

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    So, you ARE one of the cronies, I thought so. $1000 hr, but you need a partner. This would indicate employing a Dewy/Don't or some other "forbidden" hedge, requiring a second terminal, and another astute player, to keep it clandestine. The biggest bettors I've seen on the bubble, are two man teams playing the D/D, and I've seen several of these teams. Typically they will bet $75 - $150 on each line bet. They buy-in for a bundle. WTF do you mean by "rogue". Within the gambling "element" you would be very hard pressed, to find anyone more honest than myself. Is honesty a positive or negative virtue, in this particular case? :cool:
     
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  9. dustedone, Dec 2, 2017

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    Partnership as.in a business.venture. would no way work as a team at the bubble or table.

    As a rogue player, lookin for loyal to the cause person. Not to freelance after learning the strategy.

    Already have a table team in place and are steadfast w/ their agreements
     
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  10. von duck, Dec 2, 2017

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    I completely understand what you are saying. I have tried to explain to other players, that if you know anything, you must keep it to yourself, you can't even tell your best friend, because that person will have one more friend to tell who will have one more friend etc. loyalty is a very rare thing, especially when there is money involved. I only know of one other guy, in this world that I am SURE I can trust. I would bet my life on this man, but no other. :cool:.
     
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  11. Liman

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    yeah, snowflake here, your strategy for finding people to go in with you, especially since you want reliable people who will not release any info, who would of thought, come on to an internet site and solicit participants. wow. genius.find some total stranger, yeah, that's the way to go, use total strangers for trustworthy participation.....you aren't the first one that thought of this.

    theres an entire continent across the ocean called Africa and they email people every day, by the zillions in every country looking for the same confidence from strangers for just a small fee.

    I don't mind the nickname snowflake, I love the snow, and its better than lineman.
     
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  12. dustedone, Dec 2, 2017

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    Again, this is a what if situation. I find this forum a great source of information. I am not recruiting, screening or offering any kind.of commitment from anyone.

    I am looking for insight on forming a bubble craps crew. I have two highly reliable persons working the table along w/ myself.

    If surely I was.to proposition persons over the internet a face.to face w/ a long drawn out process w/ a contract that both sides would be happy signing than such strategy would be brought to the forefront.

    Look at it as a scam if you like....
     
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  13. lone irish digit, Dec 2, 2017

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    Per chance are these two people Crapspooper and Hardley or even more reliable Barney and Eustace?
     
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  14. rongarm10, Dec 2, 2017

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    WTheck is this all about? seems like things are somewhat "fuzzy". Just sayin.
     
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  15. rongarm10, Dec 2, 2017

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    Oh man I am getting a "headache", like someone once said on this forum, lol. Just sayin.
     
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  16. Mssthis1, Dec 3, 2017

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    I have bankroll but I want my change in US dollars please.

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  17. von duck, Dec 3, 2017

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    Who's portrait is that, looks like one of FredP's posts.:)
     
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  18. Mssthis1, Dec 8, 2017

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    The Red Rock bubble was good to me Wednesday.



    Regular table was good too.
     

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  19. dustedone, Dec 8, 2017

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