Can You Accept The Possibility That You're Wrong?

Discussion in 'Dice Influencing' started by kaysirtap, Jan 17, 2012.

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Which statement best describes your general beliefs about dice control/influencing?

  1. I believe dice control works, and nothing will convince me that I'm wrong.

    54.2%
  2. I believe dice control works, but I'm willing to accept the possibility that I'm wrong.

    12.5%
  3. I don't believe dice control works, and nothing will convince me that I'm wrong.

    25.0%
  4. I don't believe dice control works, but I'm willing to accept the possibility that I'm wrong.

    8.3%
  5. I don't know whether or not dice control works.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. kaysirtap, Jan 17, 2012

    kaysirtap

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    The title of the thread and the poll pretty much speak for themselves.
     
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  2. DeMango, Jan 17, 2012

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    So what is your reason for all this troll like activity? If you don't have the talent, well sucks to be you. If you are looking for talent to hook up with, well why would anyone be that foolish? If you are looking for short cuts, there are none. Why would anyone who has a verfiable edge in certain situations even think that the numbers are not the numbers, just an illusion. Just remember this: Talent plus bad betting equal lost money. There may possibly be no substitute for strictly playing pass line but that's another thread. I am really getting tired of all your bullshit, hopefully others are too.
     
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  3. bek423, Jan 17, 2012

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    To the contrary, in my estimation kaysirtap has always behaved like a gentleman here.
     
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  4. DeMango, Jan 17, 2012

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    I do not suffer fools, it's not a question of being a gentleman. Some idiots need to be told they are such, so that those unaware of the idiocy can learn. I, from time to time, offer my humble services.
     
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  5. DeMango, Jan 17, 2012

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    I already regret being truthful and making choice #1, choice #3 is the way to go and I hope it wins by a landslide.
     
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  6. basicstrategy777, Jan 17, 2012

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    I agree with bek.

    Why can't people disagree without being disagreeable. Your a smart guy D but sometimes you act like an asshole.

    777
     
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  7. DeMango, Jan 17, 2012

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    Thank you BS, that's now twice in 24 hours we have agreed! Someone has to be the intelligent asshole. Telling it like it is. It could save someone some money.
     
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    This is not "troll like activity". It is an airing of ideas and opinions, which I always thought was the purpose of this type of forum.

    Nobody said anything about "looking for talent" or "hooking up". If you can not seen the difference between a discussion and a solicitation, you have a problem.

    If you are "tired of all the bullshit"or anything writen here, ignore it. Nobody put a gun to your head to read this thread.

    Meanwhile, I am anxious to see the response to this poll and hope it gets a large number of responses.
     
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  9. DeMango, Jan 17, 2012

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    It won't get a lot of responses. The responses will not mean anything, nor stop the debate.
    It is repetition of an ongoing conversation where the same question gets asked over and over again, just in a different format.
    I am allowed to question why this vain repetition and the reasons thereof.
    If you don't like it, you ignore it, nobody put a gun to your head to read this thread. Actually you did give some good advice.
    Maybe the off key whining will stop soon.
     
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  10. basicstrategy777, Jan 17, 2012

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    D...there is some value in what you say. Just don't start out with a kick in the nuts. Escalate as appropriate and if you must, howver, don't start with the nuclear option. There is time for that if absolutely necessary. I can be a nasty sob with the best of them and have been, however, I try to be more tolerant and more nice now........however, that demon still lurks. I am successful in keeping it under control ( most of the time ).

    Good luck at the tables.

    777
     
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  11. idoc

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    You forgot one statement.

    -- I don’t know whether or not dice control works, but I practice it in case it does work.
     
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  12. basicstrategy777, Jan 17, 2012

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    good point.

    777
     
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  13. zmoney, Jan 17, 2012

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    The poll is worded wrong it's almost like that question do your parents know your gay? The first option is a catch because I know for me dice control works like I know my name. But the way it's worded make us sound like some kind of UFO hunters or something. So either way you answer you're wrong.

    Someone said before and I totally agree with why do you "unbelievers " post in this forum it's clearly marked dice control so if you don't believe then don't visit this forum and start silly threads. It's not on us to convince you dice control exists and it's not on you to convince us that it doesn't. So I agree with De I'm tired of these unless post too. Stop please and talk to the mod and see if he will start a anti DC forum for you guys so you can troll yourselves all you want.
     
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  14. kaysirtap, Jan 17, 2012

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    The poll seeks to find out how strong a craps player's beliefs are towards dice control. The question is not concerned with what you practice, only with what you believe and if this belief can be changed. So if you practice it but don't know if it works, then the statement that best describes your general beliefs about dice control/influencing is the last option, "I don’t know whether or not dice control works."
    In my opinion, the wording of the answers to the poll is balanced. There is no catch in choosing the first option, just as there is no catch in choosing the third option. The first part of the answer determines what you believe, and the second part determines your willingness to change your mind.
    I could be a believer in dice control and have started the exact same thread/poll.
    This thread and poll concerns dice control, so I don't see any reason why it shouldn't be posted here. This is not an anti-DC thread, and I am not harassing DI believers or trying to push my opinion on them. I am open to the possibility that DI exists, so I sometimes participate in dice control threads to ask questions about how it supposedly works. Otherwise, when people ask for advice on their dice handling skills, I don't say a word to them or to anyone else who gives them advice.
     
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  15. Southern-Comfort, Jan 17, 2012

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    Depends on how you see in KST seems to have something up his posterior as to whether everybody else thinks it works or not, and no matter how much we tell him he keeps asking the same thing over and over. Either he's trying to stir a pot or he's just dense. So I have my supsicions about him and who (or what) he is.
    Hey KST, why don't you just tell us which casino groups you get paychecks from so that we can go show them whether it works or not?
     
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  16. kaysirtap, Jan 17, 2012

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    I have started three threads in the Dice Control category:

    The first sought to answer how dice control is achieved - specifically if people believe that the back wall affects the control or not.

    The second sought to find out what could change the minds of both believers and non-believers in regards to dice control.

    The third seeks to find out how strong the beliefs are between believers and non-believers. This thread should have come before the second one, but I had not anticipated that many people could not come up with a hypothetical situation in which their mind could be changed.

    Each of these threads asks different things. I only repeat questions after I've been given an answer when I think there is a miscommunication about what the question is really asking.

    I guess you think I'm a spy or something because of my curiosity?
     
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  17. tercol58, Jan 17, 2012

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    I like that but when add for my part I feel that others have successes where I do not see it for myself but keep trying for the fun of it
     
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  18. Southern-Comfort, Jan 17, 2012

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    No, theres no way to be a spy in an open forum. I do believe that there is more to your story. You simply keep on about the same issue (might be different specific questions but they are all family). When you are asked a direct question, you answer it, but as vaguely as possible, or in this case deflect it entirely. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck...
    So again, which casino group(s) do you draw a check from?
     
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  19. kaysirtap, Jan 17, 2012

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    Sorry, I didn't mean to deflect - I thought you were just reiterating your previous question about what my last name could have been. The answer to your question is "none".

    My "story" is that I'm curious about player behavior... whether it's dice control, betting systems, perceptions, or whatever. Nothing more.

    As far as the "same issue" is concerned, I only see that as true because they are related to dice control. My threads about dice control have thus far sought to obtain different information by asking different questions. Do people believe that the dice can be controlled when they hit the back wall? What will change people's minds? Can people's minds be changed? To me, these are different issues.
     
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    Its borderline superstitious behavior... Dont-cha think?
     
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