Bubble Craps

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  1. von duck, Oct 29, 2017

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    Speaking of bubble craps. I have 4 more buy-in's to post, all winners, no big money though, only about $120 for the four winners combined, about 2 hours total playing time. This brings the record to 42 wins/ 4 losses, not bad for just a side show. Random game, you ask? No way in hell.:) :cool: Ching!
     
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  2. yacraps, Oct 29, 2017

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  3. James Hall, Oct 29, 2017

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    King of craps , that is just silly , I have a vast experience in the game , I have been playing since the old mafia days
    I have seen things many will never see
    I have seen amounts of money won and lost that would stagger the imagination
    I have been on the tables with some of the best craps players that ever played the game ,
    I have learned from them , I have watched people do some of the dumbest stuff you can imagine and learned from that
    A lot of the things I have learned over the last 50+ years of playing could be of value to some novice players on this board
    but there are some on this board that do not want that information shared on AN OPEN FORUN
    There are some on this board that RESENT the fact that someone may know more or are more equipped to win than they are
    I have tried to contribute information , the very first couple of days I posted stuff that caused an immediate attack
    I made the statement that "My wife , daughter and I go to Vegas 12 to 20 times a year and do quite well"
    Immediate attack by the chief denier sayin
    "IF YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING TO COME ON THIS BOARD WITH BS STATEMENTS LIKE THAT YOU HAVE ANOTHER THINK COMING
    YOU MAKE THOSE KINDS OF STATEMENTS YOU WILL GET A LOT OF PUSH BACK"
    that was in my first two or three posts and it has not let up Why don't you tell me
    what you and your kind contribute , the nada the zilch you claim others do
    Some of the people on this forum are scared to death to post anything about a win , they know what the result of that will be

    you , like your gang of deniers cannot carry on a discussion without personal attacks calling names and calling people disillusion and saying thy are insane
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    I respond to your BS in kind , think about what you do and say
    My opinion of the come bet is what it is
    What you and your group cannot stand is people with different experience expressing those , you say they are delusional
    when you came at me I came back at you
    plain and simple
    I know what numbers to bet simply because I know what numbers my throw under particular conditions will produce from a given set

    If you had posted something like that
    I would have responded with
    Can you explain that in a little more detail
    What do WE get from you guys??
    WE GET
    You are delusional you need help you need to buy drugs
    Pray tell , how does that kind of talk help , how does that move a conversation along in the right direction

    One thing that is a fact and you may want to remember
    I ANSWER IN KIND if you want to be insulting , I too poses that technology , and can answer in kind
     
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  4. Mssthis1, Oct 29, 2017

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    What methodology did you use to determine that, and how big is your sample of your own recorded rolls?
     
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  5. James Hall, Oct 29, 2017

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    How big is my sample ? I have been practicing a couple forms of dice influence for many many many years
    I have tables in my home purchased from Vegas casinos or that were at one time in a casino , I practice a bit almost every day and have for years
    I have logs in spiral notebooks , I buy the notebooks by the case . I have filled many many notebooks with logged rolls and notes
    just quickly estimating I would guess I have logged well over 60,000 rolls and that number is very conservative , based on half the number of years I have been logging , fewer numbers
    of rolls daily , fewer days per week on average etc. So the number would be greater than posted here . When logging rolls , I will use a particular set , noting where the numbers are set , all around
    an example : If I should use say the hard way set with 5s on top and 4s facing I know that if I see a 1 or 6 on either die I know that die FINISHED off axis
    if it is a 6 I know that 6 resulted from the left at finish , and so on , If I am getting one or the other or both of the dice finishing off axis consistently in
    a specific manner I know how to adjust the set , the throw , the landing area the arc or the velocity , all the above or a portion thereof
    Because I have been doing this as long as I have the adjustment or set change comes to mind almost immediately and I make the necessary correction

    my tables each have a different bounce characteristic on each end , so for two tables I have a total of 4 bounce characteristics on which to practice
    When I play I will play only on a table with one of those bounces , I have ONE that I prefer to the others and I will play only a table that matches one of the 4

    again the way I set , grip and throw the dice I will get certain numbers greater than expectation might indicate
    , those are the numbers I concentrate on
    I bet what the DICE GIVE ME
     
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  6. Mssthis1, Oct 29, 2017

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    How are you verifying? That's a lot of math to do by hand to figure out which number or numbers you have an advantage on. A few years ago I started using a roll tracking software and now practice with only one set. Two different colored dice so I can keep track of the left die and right die. The tracking software shows me which set is best depending on what I'm trying to accomplish. I want 4's and 10's with as few sevens as possible for the way I'm playing now.
     
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  7. James Hall, Oct 29, 2017

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    actually there is not a lot of math , at this point in my practice sessions , all I want to know is what numbers I throw the most of and how many of each
    I throw over expectation
    Because some of my betting strategies are designed to take advantage of hard 6s and hard 8s I use sets and throws
    that might allow me more of them
    my betting strategies are designed to capitalize on the numbers I throw most
     
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  8. James Hall, Oct 29, 2017

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    good plan
    The best we case scenario is to be able to determine what numbers are more likely to show on a more consistent basis

    A lot of training and practice will result in higher averages of consistency
     
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    Abandoned the come bet was up 150 hard way count was up near 170 on 6 started a 300 dollar progressive betting starting with 10 it hit on the 7th decision at 35 dollars
    Always better to win a few dollars then to lose

    Pass line bet was choppy on the 7 decisions
     
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    I gotta get busy in he shop I need to make a coffee table with matching end tables and another leaf for a dining room table before the cold sets in


    Just had little motivation to do anything but visit casinos lately
     
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  11. von duck, Oct 30, 2017

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    Abandoned the come bet? Maybe MR Hall WAS right. Can you say the come bet sucks? :D
     
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    I never knew you in the mafia, MR SIR. :).
     
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  13. James Hall, Oct 30, 2017

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    Wasn't in the mafia but in those days most of the dealers in the casinos
    had cauliflowerd ears and bent noses and were connected
    I had words with a couple of them once
     
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  14. von duck, Oct 30, 2017

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    It was still pretty mob-ish into the early 80s. I was walking the BJ pits at ceasars back then, and noticed that about half the dealers, were missing fingers. :confused: I never ask any of them, "what happened". :). SIR.
     
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  15. TDVegas, Oct 31, 2017

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    Where’s OAP today?

    Pick of the litter:)

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  16. TDVegas, Oct 31, 2017

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    Where’s tabletop?

    Pick your spot today:)

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  17. von duck, Oct 31, 2017

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    These things are really "JAMMIN", has Anybody ever played them? :D
     
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    Good lookin crew.:D
     
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    enlighten me, what does 100% mean on those poker machines? that they are set to pay out 100% return?

    I spent my afternoon handing out treats, 250-300 kids here today between 4 and now.parents are getting lazier and lazier, now they sit in the car and roll down the street watching kids, used to walk with the kids.....
     
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  20. von duck, Oct 31, 2017

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    100% is the amount of your buy-in, you can expect the machine to hold.:D
     
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