Bubble Craps at Red Rock casino

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by superrick, May 26, 2016.


  1. Liman

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    rick, that's exactly the point. Yes, it only proves it did happen. Period.
    end of story.
    Its no one business if he had 1 dollar on it, or 100 dollars bet on it.
    It doesn't matter if he was walking by and sat down to watch numbers, and saw the long roll, it doesn't make one iota of a difference.
    the point here is that it did happen, he saw it, now we see the record of it.
    I don't think I read where he claimed to have won 3 grand off of it, he made no claims of any monetary gains, only that he saw it, and I will believe him if he says he had his money in the machine while it was hitting.
    Heres a guy, who openly has stated sometimes he only bets a couple or a few bucks or evern a buck? when he plays the bubble.
    Hes not claiming hes walking off with a years salary and living the life of riley off the casinos.
    Hes not bragging about comped suites with strippers dancing naked on the suites coffee tables.

    He showed us a picture of what happened while he was sitting at a bubble machine. Holy moly.

    Id like to see one DI shooter substantiate his or her claims of dice manipulation or talent with such accurate proof. It will never happen. and that's why the heat is being given on this thread, because TD is such a non believer.

    The only time a so called hot roll by a di shooter is verified, is when another internet di shooter says oh yeah, it happened.

    Now me, personally, Ive witnessed DI shooters, dice setters, whatever, have nice rolls, the problem is, and always has been, none of them made any money on their rolls because they were stuck on betting what they thought they would be rolling, and they rolled everything but what they were betting.
    Just another good random roll, and people like me, I say, bless you my son, for you have made me another grand on all those 4s you just rolled, sorry you lost 140 dollars on your roll. Me, I count on anyone getting hot or lucky. I never count on ones self claimed or self described ability to roll anything other than what the randomness of the dice will present.
     
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  2. Liman

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    and its sad, but I had to decline another invite to another bbq today.
    I spend 8 hours at my sons house yesterday and last evening, and my stomach has had enough of bbq ribs and chicken kabobs. And burgers, hotdogs, chips, dips, fruit, and so on and so on.
    so Im sitting here reading craps forum when most of my friends and relatives are enjoying yet another day of brew and burgers.
    really sad.(although I introduced everyone to the Tiny Heinies last night, no one knew they came in the 7 oz bottles, like the Coronitas.I do not drink, but everyone else around me does)
    Im going to have bland turkey tonight, getting old sucks.
     
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  3. Pressit, May 30, 2016

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    Is it asking to much of The Terror of the BC machine, the one who has the crowd shouting his name, the one who has caused the suits to ruined their suits with sweat with worry over his play, you TD is the BCI Man, just snap a picture of the computer screen and pay slip? Not asking for a picture of you holding a W-2G, don't need any more, just a simple picture of the screen and pay slip. Hey if SR can do it, why not you?

    All you have to do is climb out of your burrow in Summerlin, hop into your Pacer, and chug on down to your local gambling hole.

    Betting the BC 4/5 out 7 days a week you have got to be knocking them dead. TD BCI is a magnet for casino heat, so better keep your distance.
     
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  4. TDVegas, May 30, 2016

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    Sure. How does that separate you from me? I'm no better than you Rick. For some reason, on craps, you think you are better than me. That's all.

    As Liman said, everyone has good rolls, everyone has bad rolls. The game is LUCK!!!

    Why is it you and Harley think you have a leg up on everyone else? The reality is you don't. You have just as many good and BAD rolls as the rest of us.

    The difference between you and me in the game of craps.....is, IMO, nothing. YOU are the one who seems to think otherwise. Not me.

    Whether you hold the dice or I hold the dice...the expectations for that bet are the same. Period. 1.41% or whatever other bet is on the table.

    I have no reason to ridicule the table. I don't. If people like playing the table version....go. Wonderful. Win. It's you guys who seem to want to rail on those who play a different version. Not me.

    Ya gotta look in the mirror sometimes, Rick.
     
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  5. Liman

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    rick, td knows just because if he didn't or did hit the button as the saying goes, he had little control on what numbers were coming out.
    I say little because, every split second difference or shaking dice will ofcourse mean an different result, but they are all based on the randomness of the shaking.
    Noone can predict what dice will pop to when they hit that button. Noone.
    Hes posting pics of the sequence of number, the lucky sequence.
     
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  6. TDVegas, May 30, 2016

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    Both rolls were MINE. if Rick doesn't want to believe that...that's his problem. It's no skin off my back. What does he think I'm doing?...watching a bubble craps machine for 2 hours on the sidelines in the chance that a roll happens?? LOL.

    How asinine is that?
     
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  7. TDVegas, May 30, 2016

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    For a FACT? No you don't. Ridiculous statement. No one knows for sure.

    There is NO betting strategy that makes you overcome house edge. Period. If you think that...I give up. You're hopeless. A gambler needs luck. A betting strategy does NOT overcome house edge.

    Nonsense statement. I won yesterday.

    I backed up my rolls with picture. You back up your statements with nothing. Zilch.

    We've been asking you for years if you believe in dice influence. You've stated on every thread that dice control is a farce. Now we find out you teach toss. If you teach toss...you BELIEVE in dice influence, toss influence...whatever you want to call it.

    You BELIEVE in dice influence. You just don't believe the dice stay on axis. So, they go off axis and then randomize. You teach OFF AXIS. you advocate off axis dice control. Who are you trying to fool?

    The more you and Harley talk...the more I'm convinced that neither one of you has ANY clue on the game of craps. The ACA attendees are wasting their time with you two.
     
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  8. Pressit, May 31, 2016

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    TD

    What you are upset about, and you are, you are being asked to provide proof that you won, your pretty pictures only tell half the tale. You have always demanded proof of others who claim they won should they claim some sort of skill, this is no different. In fact given your history of contradictions, a simple picture of the pay slip would had only supported your claims, which now appears suspect. Fact is the proof which TD is constantly demanding of others, doesn't apply to him. TD's claim of 30 plus years of experience working the gambling side of the business trumps all who dare to challenge his claims. TD just doesn't like being challenged, even if it is his own words that are doing the challenge.
     
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  9. TDVegas, May 31, 2016

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    Picture of a pay slip? LOL.
    That's what you want?

    How about one better? I do what Rick did when he filmed himself holding some black chips. What he likely did was go to the table, put down money and ask for black chips. He then proceeded to walk to the cashier and started filming the chips in his hand while explaining on video that he just won on the craps table.

    Pay slip? LOL
    I guess next time I could take a picture of it. Not sure what that proves---in fact I'll go out on a limb and say for you...it proves nothing. Who cares? $75---$275 or $500?

    I posted pictures of my rolls...you can take it or leave it. Totally your choice.
    What can you post to show you even play?
    You live in West Virginia, was it?
     
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  10. Liman

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    no one who claims to be a dice influencer wants to acknowledge anything as far as a bubble craps machine goes.
    It is against everything they believe in as far as gaming.
    there will never be an end to this, and I also don't get why a payout slip is needed.
    but I understand the animonisty towards TD simply because he rebuts? or is a better choice of words, challenges all the glorious claims made by dice influencers.
    This is in my opinion, the root cause of most of this animosity and bitterness.
    If TD took 1000 bucks and cashed out 947 dollars, then posted hey, I won 647 dollars after my 300 dollar buy in, no one would believe him, whether he lied or not.
    Hell be damned if he does, damned if he doesn't, that much is clear to me.
    anyway he chooses to post, he will always be met with fire here simply because his stand on dice influencing.
    does anyone think Im wrong?

    a reason I no longer post pics of the big A bubble and my wins or losses.
    cant prove anything, my previous postings of pics of the bubble was just to share the roll sequences, and ofcourse to brag if I hit something nice. but I can never prove it unless a member from here that isn't my buddy witnessed it.
     
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    SR has posted his ticket from BC, as usual poor Mr. 30 years experience working the gambling side of the business, has his facts wrong yet again. What's next, taking pictures of the roulette tower with 13 red numbers showing, claiming you had had the red covered? Or maybe TD's pictures of video poker machine screens with a straight flush, 4 aces. What about the Big Wheel?
    Pretty pictures, all pretty meaningless.
     
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  12. Onautopilot, May 31, 2016

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    You don't have to prove anything, some people earn creditability by their words and actions!
     
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    Anyone can put money in a machine then cash a ticket out and claim anything they want. Some people have creditability, some don't....make your own judgments.
     
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    Since you're the self appointed CSI on this forum, why don't you hop in your squad car, pop on the disco lights and drive over to Red Rocks Casino. Show them your badge and demand to see the surveillance footage of TD's sessions at the Bubble? Would you even believe it then?
     
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  15. TDVegas, May 31, 2016

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    What on earth?

    I guess I can go today or tomorrow and play and show you a ticket chit. But let me ask this...what on earth does that prove? If I take $50---or $100---or $200 with me and make a $1 pass line bet and it wins. Let's say I cash out and take a picture of the chit $51 or $101 or $201. What on earth does that prove??

    I showed you several pictures that I was there. Other than flying you out here and accompanying me while I play and watching...you're not going to believe anything.

    If Liman, OAP and me go play together...Liman wins $2,000, OAP wins $500 and I win $50....we are all going to be happy for each other. We all won. They aren't going to judge me or look at me differently because I won less. We are all 3 men enjoying a beer afterwards and happy that each of us has won.

    Is your life that shallow that you judge people based on the size of Rick's ticket slip?
     
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    Any anyone can take a meaningless pictures post them. TD, made the claim, all we are asking for is proof. This is no different than what TD has demanded for, W-2G's, bank account info, we are not requesting any personal information, take a picture of the full screen, and the printed receipt. Nothing intrusive about that.
     
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  17. Pressit, May 31, 2016

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    Your casino is only 5 minutes away, and you were going to go anyways. Catch a lunch, watch the tourists, give tips to rookie BC players, sign autographs, take pictures, make sure the battery is fully charged. It's entertainment have fun.
     
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  18. TDVegas, May 31, 2016

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    I made no claim. I played. I rolled. That was my claim.

    If it really means that much to you...I can take a picture of the full screen. What it will show is this...

    Money in credit
    $ pass line bet with $ odds
    Additional $ come bet

    If it goes further, there will be odds on the come bet
    Then a 3rd wager come bet.

    Is this good with you?

    If this is your way of conducting a fishing expedition to comment or critique on wagered amounts (and I think that's where it is heading---I can think of no other reason for your persistence)....then say that before I go there.
     
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    while I hope this happens in the future, especially me winning 2 grand, I have to let you know upfront I don't drink alcohol.
    but my 2 bits with lime makes me happy these days.
     
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  20. TDVegas, May 31, 2016

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    We are all 3 men enjoying a drink afterwards and happy that each of us has won.
    Liman is enjoying 2 bits with lime and OAP and I are having a beer.
     
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