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Discussion in 'Advanced Craps' started by betwthelines, Dec 28, 2016.
They may pay the same but they are not the same
Big 6 and 8 work on the come out where place bets dont.
Off to a good start...and tomp I would like to increase my wager from $500 to $5,000 with your permission. This was from a month ago or so. Does it matter?
So far, so good. Six 7's in 9 rolls.
Did you have a witness?
Now at eleven - 7's in 15 rolls!!....looking good!! I would now like to increase the wager from $5,000 to $500,000 with your permission. What say ye?
The eye in the sky is your witness.
Well...as I see it--my picture "evidence" is better than the guy just posting 7-7-7-3-7-7-11-2-7-5-7-7-7-7-7...
I guess that means you understand you have been a jerk and don't
know what else to say.
Spare us all your bullshit feigned indignation over something that never happened. Wanna show the post where I called you a liar? Just because people don't affirm your DI claims or they question the "accounting"...you accuse them of calling you a liar. You're way too old for that grade school shit. Pull the post where I specifically called you a liar. Let's see it.
Meanwhile...shithead, asshole, jerk gets slung by you.
Do I care? Not a wit. The hypocrisy is only noted.
Can I start calling you names...
Or will there be more hypocritical outrage that you've been "disrespected"...?
Meanwhile you sling shit from the getgo.
Get a life. I tolerate no veiled or direct bullshit from the likes of you.
I'll see if I can line up MathGuy, MustangS, Hightower...and all the others on the WoV forum who confronted your "unusual" numbers. What's with you? You have problems everywhere you go with this "calling me a liar" bullshit. Try looking in the mirror for the problem.
Go play your craps and quit whining about some fictitious slight.
Why do I side with the non DI's on this site far too often? So often they have reasoned replies, no drama, no bullshit, no fake pictures, no tall tales, no sock puppets from another site, one persona and one general theme: Put up or shut up.
The BOHUNK *****"Less than 12 - 7's in 72 rolls"*****.....
has taken place!!!
Today....with tomp in attendance.
Not only was it beaten....it was DEMOLISHED. A 9.0 SRR was held. 8 - 7's in 72 rolls. Chunker expectation was 12.
So, while the so called "skilled shooters" run from the challenge. TDVegas runs to it----AND wins!! What did it prove?...Absolutely nothing other than I am willing to GO DO. No talk.
Tomp (betweenthelines) will report in when he gets a chance. The Tough Craps Player did well during this sequence as well and was doing GREAT when I left tonight. I believe he will be in Vegas for one more night? The Tough Craps Player can and does play marathon sessions.
The BOHUNK Challenge, on this day....was BLASTED to smithereens!!
Tomp (betweenthelines) is having a wonderful time in Vegas. I admire his play style---a true, dyed in the wool tough craps player. Reminds me of Liman's type of play. He was up 3X from when I started. Kudos. He is systematic and progressing. The come bet certainly does NOT suck. He doesn't deviate from the plan and hopes to push the envelope to a mega win. I'm sure he will post an update in the future...it seems his travels are taking him all over this great country and I'm not sure about his internet availability. Gotta love road trips.
This challenge wasn't about the money....but here ya go. Thanks, tom.
10% will be cut to Jacob for beer money. Thanks for maintaining a great forum. Keep an eye out on your PayPal account.
TDV- Yes I think I will have to change my identity from Hartzehn22 to JamesBond55! lol. Gotta run as I have another covert mission to attend to and guess what???? It takes place in a real casino and not in the basement of my home. lol. Ciao Bubble Boy77 and try to avoid getting carpal tunnel pressing the button. Lol just kidding.
Where do you like in Biloxi??
It would be great to hear an update from btw on his grand quest.
this will of course turn into yet another, typical overly-long post by me...
...and in an effort to not completely re-invent the wheel i will first post an edited version of PMs that i sent to tdv and 'pilot who were asking after the same thing as you. (i am virtually 100% certain either will mind)
it was the good, the bad and the ugly
the good: had great fun most of the time...it is a big country!
leery of the northern passes but took a chance due to free room offers in reno and vegas and started out westward, as opposed to my usual eastward/fla cant, this (barely) worked out as i did skirt a rockies blizzard outside sl city by mere miles, ..then headed west at a leisurely pace to eventually fla and a couple of twinks practice games in ft myers anda yankmees contest in tamper.
did really well in albuquerque at the route 66 free 4/10 table & the bubble on the eastward path...but tunica and biloxi were disasters...no bubble at any place in those mississippi areas...visited about 12 casinos...
successfully leeched beds and baths from friends on this leg...meeting/playing with tdv was also, as usual, a genuine pleasure and also good...your ['pilot's] presence was missed but good to hear that things are going in the right direction...
the bad: my honda broke down for good 94 miles outside albuquerque on the trip back westward to the cactus league and more nevada stuff...this mimicked exactly the experience of 2 years prior on this snowbird getaway... same issue too: head gasket and other things toast...fortunately my AAA towing benefit is a hundred miles.
but now my big problem is another vehicle...i "lucked" into a guy who worked for a rental car place who had a 1999 ford escort with 222k miles...i was extremely leery paying his price but he did not budge as i believe he sensed my predicament...i never did get a rental car but took a cab to the isleta casino where this guy met me with the car...turns out the car runs real good and made it the 3000 miles touring around and back to mn...the thing actually gets better mileage than my honda did, 36 to 42 mpg...pretty good forrra 1999 vehicle with 222k...
my vehicle welt is to buy high mileage hondas, usually in the $2-$3k range, self-insure them (except for the required liability stuff), drive them until they give up the ghost and then get another one...unfortunately the last 2 "gave up the ghost" on my 5000 mile, far from home,winter sojourn (not that that did not cross my mind, especially given the high mileage factor, even before the first actual experience of it)...
i am seriously considering renting a car next time while aware that the ridiculously high insurance cost might be more of drawback to that than the actual rental cost...i will have to check in with my current carrier & others about that...a (temporary) rental car rider might be just the ticket...
due to "temporary license tag" issues, along with the favorable free bets and interblock bubble at the isleta i ended up spending almost 3 weeks in albuquerque where i gave back the entire thou i had won on the way thru eastward...
the big losses were actually tempered by the low bubble limits and i did start out nicely, running into a hot free 4/10 progression that reached $200 (ie $400 win along with the $300, $200, $150, $100, $80, $60 & $40 previous wins in the progression before giving back the ending $600 [$300 each on the 4/10]) and walked away over $1k ahead...but like i said before i left alb i had given all that and then some back...
and then there was one scary moment at the rockies summit in vail...all of a sudden the cruise goes out on this just purchased tub and the speedometer drops to 30 mph, exactly what happened in my 2 previous vehicle deaths!...turns out the thing simply did not have enough power for the ascent (several flashing, even slower-moving trucks might have been a clue)...
downshifting (it is a 5 speed) more or less solved the problem much to my incredible relief until i reached the summit---the sign said elevation 10,650 ft!!---whence it was all smooth sailing again...it was not until that scare was over that i remembered that the exact same thing happened 2 years prior in my then junker on that very same stretch...this part of the rockies is simply incredible--incredible...
the worse and the ugly: i was robbed in reno...my car in the sands regency** lot was broken into and my bag with some valuables, not to mention EVERYTHING that i needed was taken...but the big thing was a bunch of credit cards, and worse i was not sure of which cards were in there...the thief was able to make several purchases with one of them before i could get to the bank fraud dept...just after midnight i called every bank with whom i thought i had a card BUT I COULD NOT GET THROUGH TO A LIVE PERSON at citibank and when i finally after much frustrating circling got thru in their automated hell to a place where they asked for my ssn, they did not recognize it!!! thus i assumed that this was not a company where i had an account.
WRONG! a few hours later i got a text alert from their fraud dept and after several frustrating minutes/half hours got it straightened out...upon my return i did check online and noticed that they had credited all of the fraudulent charges as they had said they would...
my check book was also in there! i was able to get that solved in fairly short order but to get a new acct i needed be at a branch and this was late sat/sunday...i was on my way to my sister's in springfield mo where my bank has a branch and opened a replacement account...but now i will probably spend ALL DAY TOMORROW [ie 12/31] in bank voice mail hell getting my MANY auto pay accounts switched over (not to mention ss and other auto deposit stuff) ---nicely, until i can get all of that taken care of, the bank has the old acct set up to decline any debits (including the auto pays) but to allow deposits...
also in there was my passport! talk about solid ID! I had to get to my local branch (a whole 'nother related story!) and when i mentioned that, the horrified bank minion advised that i needed to call the credit bureaus forthwith to forstall id theft in the event of attempts to open credit accounts
the good, the bad and the ugly is my #1 flick of all time...i hate when 2/3rds of it happens in real life.
**double, maybe triple sand in the face over checking in at the sands...i "thought" i had some some room offers, or at least discounts there, which turned out not to be true...needing sleep and a room and their fairly decent rates anyway i booked 2 nights BEFORE checking that they still offered 10x odds, a main reno reason i went there in the first place!...IDIOT! they have returned to the loathesome reno 3/4/5...thirdly upon my return and catching up on some emails, i discovered that it was BOOMTOWN that had the offers for free rooms and not sands regency (an email in fact had a free room sands offer but it had expired)...boomtown is a nice place and a mere 10 miles or less away...i doubt very much i would have been robbed there...every move i made regarding the sands regency was wrong in reno!
also in my stolen bag were my "craps won loss" records for the trip...when i returned home to my ragged craps record book i had no choice but to lump the entire trip (-$2300 and i am confident that that is accurate) into one entry.
the one time during the trip when i had internet access i noted a pm from pressit saying he could not make it to our planned bohunk challenge at his local joint in nc. this was good to have that information but of course i would have called to confirm everything anyway since this jaunt would have been (intentionally) about 1200 miles "out of the way" (what fun these serendipitous trips, eh?!)
tabletop also bowed out from tunica as he simply could not part with his ten dollars...at the time i got this text i was in biloxi, recently just from tunica...i was perfectly willing to go back (what fun these serendipitous trips, eh?!)
not sure what happened to demango, where biloxi is apparently a common haunt.
while not completely so, (did also catch a couple of cubs practice efforts in aridzona) what is usually primarily a spring ball trip actually turned into more of a casino tour...i would have to say that i was in about 25 of them though other than pro-offered, sign up free play did not play in all of them...the mgm joint in tunica (i forget the name now) has what appears to be ripoff payouts and the mid-week afternoon craps minimum was $10, the only time i saw more than a $5 min in mississippi other than prime time saturday atta couple of the more hoity-toity places in biloxi...i played 3 times at the palace there and they have a $3 min apparently at all times (judging from its prime time sat night presence anyway)...i like that but it did nothing to help me win.
would there be anything else you would like to know?
ps see post #71 in the How to play three $25 free play chips? thread for additional anecdotes.
There's a recent thread about parking fees in Vegas. Sounds like you had very expensive parking in Reno and if I was considering a trip to Reno, it's now off the list. All in all though, it sounds like the adventure you had was well worth the $2300 you left at the tables. If only James Hall had been at Isleta while you were there, or maybe he was? Did you see any cowboys turn $42 into 24k? That Escort may be your big win. I had an 83 Escort 5spd, I bought for $300 with 130k on the clock. Had to put brakes on it, put about 50k on it and sold it for $300. One of the better junkers I've had over the years.
Thanks for that great trip report, and it's very clear now, why you're the one tough craps player.