<<<<<<<edit: latest version of the challenge is on post #198 of this thread>>>>>>> ----the plan is to use this thread to make revisions or additions--if any--to the bohunk challenge...the plan is, as here, to paste the latest version in its entirety...thus the latest post showing it here should be the current version...that is the plan anyway----- tabletop made a claim that he could roll fewer 7s than expectation in 72 rolls...this prompted adding a bet against that to the bohunk challenge and is reflected in the revised version below. once again please feel free to make any claim of skill at bank craps that you wish to which you can attach numbers (for example as tt did) and a bc bet can likely be structured around it. most DIers have declined participation, generally misunderstanding that the bc is simply BETS designed for gamblers...,it means nothing beyond that and certainly proves nothing...these looking for meaning or to prove something apparently do not like easy money, are not really gamblers or actually lack confidence in their claimed expertise---if their claims were actually true, they would be at an advantage in the bc bets. nevertheless no one is forcing anyone to do anything...those that decline however are very much mistaken if they therefore think that the bohunk has no validity or interest: one random roller has already taken the challenge, three others have said they would, awaiting only the solution of logistical issues...and at least 2 DIers are seriously considering it and a third would like to but has declined for legitimate personal reasons. note in the rules below that the bc is available at basically any legal casino...yes, there are logistical issues that would need to be worked out but the bohunk does play sometimes in casinos all over the us and further has engaged trusted sources to be his witness. the Tough Craps player is putting up the money...his motive was frustration with YEARS of talk on here and never DO...and not primarily monetary--he is actually at relatively serious financial risk in some of the challenges while standing to benefit relatively little but even so has agreed to keep jacob in suds with 20% of his winnings or $10, whichever is greater...in that vein a beer fund "tip" from any winners would also be nice and appreciated i am sure... but some have told the TC player that they do not want his money...No --- and how funny is this? --- they "want tdvegas's money"...one even told me he "WILL take tdvegas's money" <emphasis his>...tdv has agreed and i gave my word that it would be tdv's money that i would bring (he wanted no part of tdv's actual presence...LOL!)...but this too turned out to be nothing but talk, talk, talk...no DO. ------------------------------------------------------- BOHUNK CHALLENGE COMPLETE DETAILS >>the bohunk challenge is valid in any legal casino in the us or its territories, canada or 'ustralier.<< >>more than one shooter is allowed to participate in the roll count<< >>participants are in COMPLETE CONTROL as to which rolls "count" as long as it is stated before the roll...in this regard one would "hope" that all rolls would count unless called off...however if he wishes, it is the shooter(s) prerogative to so designate before each individual roll so long as it is clearly understood before the roll which rolls are "on"<< >>participants are in COMPLETE CONTROL as to which casino(s) are used, which table(s) are played, how many sessions it takes, what superstitions he wishes to entertain and in control of all such similar details<< 6 6s in 36 Roll 60 or more 6s in 360 rolls pays 10 to 1 ($100 max bet pays $1000) Roll 84 or more 6s in 500 rolls pays 12 to 1 ($100 max bet pays $1200) Roll 167 or more 6s in 1000 rolls pays 50 to 1 ($20 max bet pays $1000) Roll 500 or more 6s in 3000 rolls pays 100 to 1 ($10 max bet pays $1000) Roll 833 or more 6s in 5000 rolls pays 200 to 1 ($10 max bet pays $2000) >>>8s can be substituted for 6s but not combined ...however separate bets for both can be made using the same rolls, if desired...separate dollar amounts can also be made for either as long the amounts are specified as to which amount is on the 6s and which on the 8s<<< ---------------------------------------------------------- SRR OF 7 OR BETTER Roll 51 or fewer 7s in 360 rolls pays 6 to 1* ($200 max bet pays $1200) Roll 71 or fewer 7s in 500 rolls pays 7 to 1 ($150 max bet pays $1050) Roll 142 or fewer 7s in 1000 rolls pays 12 to 1** ($100 max bet pays $1200) Roll 428 or fewer 7s in 3000 rolls pays 75 to 1 ($20 max bet pays $1500) Roll 714 or fewer 7s in 5000 rolls pays 125 to 1 ($10 max bet pays $1250) *this represents a change, an increase from 5 to 1 **this represent a change, an increase from 10 to 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- 11 OR FEWER 7s IN 72 ROLLS Roll 11 or fewer 7s in 72 rolls pays even money $10 minimum bet. $500 maximum tom p ------>edit: latest version on post #17 PS WHILE CASINOS NOT ONLY TOLERATE BUT SOME EVEN SEEM TO WELCOME NOTEBOOK TRACKING OF ROLLS AT THE TABLE ---which obviously will be necessary in the bohunk challenge--- THEY WILL NOT TOLERATE "SIDE BETS"...GREAT CARE WILL THUS NEED TO BE TAKEN THAT THE CONFIDENTIALITY OF WHAT IS GOING ON IS MAINTAINED. "loose lips sinks ships".