betting strategy

Discussion in 'Bankroll Management' started by harrythewit, Jun 30, 2018.

  1. twodicebilly, Jul 13, 2018

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    Edward

    Ofcourse Gargoil was on here bragging....

    He is the only guy on here that indicated he wins everyday he
    plays...then questioned about it, he got hyper and indicated he could buy all
    us DI guys twice over.

    I even got a phone call from one of the guys that is pissing and moaning about
    me saying he did not think Gargoil did win as much as he said..

    Who cares , I hope Gargoil wins a ton, I hope everyone wins.

    There is not a single guy in this room that believes in dice control/////zero
    I think you can get a little influence under the conditions, hardly an issue.
    You got an issue with something James said or thinks...ask

    a number of months I had a little issue with something I thought James
    was saying....so I asked him.. and he did not piss and moan that
    I asked , he gave me a very good reasonable answer.

    Edwards..this is all personal BS ..there are not any two guys on here
    that in person could not enjoy a drink, or on the phone have a good hour long
    conversation about craps or vegas or what ever.....the minute you get here
    you see shit.

    go figure


    tdb


    tdb
     
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  2. James Hall, Jul 13, 2018

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    The basic ingredient for the sport ,
    I think everyone should try it at least once in their life
     
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  3. TDVegas, Jul 13, 2018

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    That is simply not true.

    James believes in dice control.

    He has repeatedly stated that dice influence is MERELY the ACT of tossing and influencing a result by tossing the dice.

    Influencing a WANTED OR DESIRED result is for James....DICE CONTROL.

    He is on record stating this. He separates the two. Dice influence is merely the act of setting and tossing. Dice control is getting a desired or as you might say influenced result.
     
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  4. James Hall, Jul 13, 2018

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    Actually both of these terms are rather recent versions
    of what the old masters called their "VERSION"
    I use these terms , "INFLUENCE" & "CONTROL"
    because these are the terms used by the people now practicing
     
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  5. Edward-ky, Jul 13, 2018

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    I will say everyday around the world some guy that doesnt do DI and just chucks them is having a monster and probably multiple people are having monster rolls without having to practice. For that to be your idea of proof of DI is completely ridiculous.
     
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  6. James Hall, Jul 13, 2018

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    You see it happen a lot , because you are unable to
    do it you think no one else can , that's fine
    continue doing what you are doing , I really don't know why you would
    but if you are happy with your results plod on
    apparently you can afford it , I hope so at any rate
     
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  7. Edward-ky, Jul 13, 2018

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    I do it far superior then you would be able to. That is why you are on this forum all the time and i am not.
     
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  8. TDVegas, Jul 13, 2018

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    Yep. It's what I've been saying since day 1. James is not a player beyond his keyboard. By his own admission, he was only playing maybe once a month....and even that I dispute.

    He lives 4-5 hours from the nearest casino with a live table....just the fact that he is here 24/7 prevents him from actually getting to a casino.

    He never states when he is in Vegas. He never states any detail. All we get is "a vault assault" type statement. For all we know....maybe Leon and Parker are robbing banks.

    I also question if he posts from a mobile device. Doubtful...but that's a guess.
     
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  9. James Hall, Jul 13, 2018

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    Now I know that was a statement made in anger
    and frustration , based on your statement
    you must be REALLY , REALLY GOOD
     
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  10. Mssthis1, Jul 13, 2018

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    Lights out at the nursing home is 9pm Arizona time. Some people have easy to follow patterns in their daily routines.
     
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  11. Twelve4s, Jul 13, 2018

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    I think Rick posted this picture of James in Vegas,

    129C5013-B5A2-4588-AF81-EC4032C9D7CC.jpeg
     
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  12. James Hall, Jul 13, 2018

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    That is a total non fact based opinion
    More total bull botchy , 24/7 is one hell of a stretch
    Keep in mind genius , I have several laptops , a couple of tablets
    and there is WiFi
    The 4 or 5 hours is drive time ,
    we shave quite a lot of time from that , unless of course
    if we go to New Mexico or Louisiana and even those
    states have WiFi
    I did state some detail a couple of times and what did I get
    "Nobody cares if you go play" , the META DATA says that picture
    was taken in the mid west
    If I were to post trip reports
    you would be in a constant state of turmoil
    We got back just the other day , it was raining hard ways
    With you everything is a guess
    It's not that you don't believe TDV ,
    it's simply that you won't , You will not accept the fact
    that what we do is possible , that's fine
    disbelieve anything you want , this stuff has to be
    tearing you up
     
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  13. James Hall, Jul 13, 2018

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    Nursing home , Your home now is it?
     
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  14. James Hall, Jul 13, 2018

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    I would venture to say the NEED to WORK
    plays a large part in your absence from this and other activities
    I tried that , didn't like it
     
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  15. James Hall, Jul 13, 2018

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    Nope here again a total distortion
    What I said was , "We go to Vegas 12 to 20 times per year"
    If you are going to quote , do so in an honest manner
    That is that spin thing you pride yourself on
    HALF TRUTHS make you appear weak and disingenuous
     
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  16. Edward-ky, Jul 13, 2018

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    And your lies speak for themselves.
     
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  17. TDVegas, Jul 13, 2018

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    Look at the difference between your "trip reports" and Liman's Midwest tour. In fact your trip reports are nothing but 3 words....

    "another vault assault"...nothing else. Or "we go to Vegas 12-20 times a year"

    He provides....
    Details
    Numerous pictures
    Where he's playing
    What he's playing
    Backing it all up with chips, vouchers, pictures and everything else.

    You keep saying "I have FACTS"....

    Seems to me the one with FACTS on his play is Liman.

    Go read his trip report. THAT is a trip report!
    http://www.crapsforum.com/threads/chicago-run.38670/

    All you offer is "we had another vault assault"

    Then wonder why you get questioned.
     
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  18. James Hall, Jul 13, 2018

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    Yeah , great report , very impressive , if I ever decide to have a salad I'll go to Tuesday's
    You still don't understand what I have been saying for the past 2 years
    I don't mind people questioning what I post , I welcome that
    what I and other people object to is WHAT YOU DO
    what you call PUSH BACK
    anything you don't agree with becomes a fight ,
    Your attitude of , "NOBODY WINS" is a sticking point
    with you and you have an insatiable need to
    TRY TO PROVE THAT NOBODY WINS
    I win other people win , the fact that you apparently don't
    is driving you to distraction
    You say my trip reports are nothing but three words
    If I posted our trip report in full , you would be tearing them down for
    a week at the least , You don't have the capacity to
    accept what happens , you don't understand the first
    thing about winning so you have to contradict and criticize
    everything posted that even hints at winning
    From you I get flack for not posting trip reports
    or flack if I don't
    This goes nowhere
     
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  19. James Hall, Jul 13, 2018

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    My My My what a terrible thing to say ,
    why in the world would you be so insulting to your betters ?
     
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  20. TDVegas, Jul 13, 2018

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    I don’t even know if a full trip report will help your cause here because you utterly BUTCHERED that with your Harrah’s New Mexico story. Everything is tainted now.

    But, I would give it a shot and let the chips fall as to whether any of it is taken at word.

    “VAULT ASSAULT” isnt a trip report.

    A trip report is what Liman posted.
    Nobody wins? Ever? Really? None of the 3,500 players playing craps on the Vegas Strip right now....none of them will win? That's what you are saying I'm saying? None will leave the table up money?

    Idiocy.
     
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