betting strategy

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  1. harrythewit, Jun 30, 2018

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    This has probably been debated many times, but here goes: do you prefer to collect (once or twice) and then press or press (once or twice) and then collect? My betting is usually the come out with 2-3 times odds and place the 6 and 8. I would appreciate it if you could explain your reasoning. Thanks in advance of my next trip to AC.
     
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  2. basicstrategy777, Jun 30, 2018

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    Whatever way gets your initial outlay back the quickest( or most of it), is what I would do .....

    If it is a long hand what the big deal about how you bet......if they are very short hands, you lose all your money quick......you've got to figure a strategy where if you have short hands, you don't lose all your money real quick. Are most hands long ones or short ones ?

    Conserving your money should be your #1 goal, initially........if that is not your #1 goal you will lose your money real quick......

    Anybody can make money....that's not the trick.

    IMHO.

    777
     
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  3. James Hall, Jun 30, 2018

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    What 777 said is spot on
    You need to get your money off the table
    as early in the game as you possibly can
    When you are playing with their money there is no way to lose
    Once I am to the point where I am playing with house money
    I then , want to get as much of their money on the table as I can
    in as short a period of time as is possible
     
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  4. lone irish digit, Jun 30, 2018

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    This is Barney,

    The LID likes to take the one hit and if his tosses of the dices looks spectacular he then puts his whole bankroll behind pass line (he has special relationships with most casinos we go to with the suits and sluts) and then leave a big winner or in rare cases a loser because he would rather leave the table of craps when they are busy so we can do other things at casino.


    Thank you very much


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  5. harrythewit, Jun 30, 2018

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    A perfect strategy, no doubt!
     
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  6. lone irish digit, Jun 30, 2018

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    This is Barney,

    You are mostest greatest correct Mr Harry. This strategy is only advised to the most bestest craps tossers such as the LID and the Mr. James Hall because both are bonefide crap meisters. However it is strategy one must consider if they like the juice or have limited time to play the game of craps. Here's a picture of the LID when he went to the Las Vegas for the Post American Craps Academy about two years ago.


    Thank you very much


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  7. basicstrategy777, Jun 30, 2018

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    Hi-value chips are on the bottom.

    777
     
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  8. Twelve4s, Jun 30, 2018

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    Not if you’re in New Mexico.
     
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  9. KokomoJoe4, Jul 1, 2018

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    Frickin piker LID - get some money out onto the table.

    Now there is a collection of interesting players. Let's call it the beauties and the beasts.

    Will you parlay the come out winner?
     
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  10. lone irish digit, Jul 1, 2018

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    This is Barney,

    Mr. Koko, I believe the LID has used the coming out parlay based on the OAP advices for all random tossers but not on himself unless he changes to a groupie one set for the coming out. However, at last roadtrip nothing he did worked very well because he was getting overs the recent incarceration of last month.

    Thank you very much
     
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  11. lone irish digit, Jul 1, 2018

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    Barney, you need to STFU. You must stop explaining some of my crap strategies on an open forum. This will cause decreased book sales of my 2017 best seller "The Game of Craps"...Besides you are a confused person and have a tendency to get things mixed up. For instance, you have posted a few times on this forum that I was recently incarcerated. You dumb shit, you visited me at hospital; I was incapacitated not incarcerated. Think of the possible ramifications of the the things you post Barney or you will be sleeping in the goat shed again and its a bit hot these days.
     
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  12. The Comeback Kid, Jul 1, 2018

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    Trouble in paradise?

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  13. lone irish digit, Jul 1, 2018

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    This is Barney,

    You are mostest correct Mr.LID personage, I do make mistakes sometimes but I try my bestest to make the monies. However, i think you mad at me because on last roadtrip I lost muchest monies at the slut machine devices. I grant that you are most greatest craps controller personage along with MP and the Dave G personage but you gots to stop dragging my dick in the shirts over small mistakes. I promise to do better in future but just don't stop me from using suppercomputer like you usually do when you are giving me the shits.

    Thank you very much
     
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  14. lone irish digit, Jul 1, 2018

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    I am very sorry about getting angry at you Barney so I went outside and fixed your car. I did a test run and it seems to be running very, very well. However, because I am expecting a UPS delivery this afternoon of large parts for the time shifting device, I parked your car down the road by the creek. All is forgiven, just go start up your car and park it closer to the homestead.
     
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  15. Mssthis1, Jul 1, 2018

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    LID. Do you ever have trouble with the massive pile of chips you have bet affecting your toss? I run into problems with my line bet and odds getting in the way of my underhand toss on long rolls and need some pointers.

    TIA.
     
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  16. lone irish digit, Jul 1, 2018

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    Since I don't toss underhand I don't have that problem. You should check with FRT Dave G since his go to toss is underhand. On second thought, never mind.
     
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    "Do we prefer to collect once or twice"?:confused: Yes we DO, and furthermore, we prefer to collect twice, two times as much, except for TDVegas, who prefers to always lose. :)
     
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  18. harrythewit, Jul 1, 2018

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    You guys really crack me up....but unless I'm missing something, nobody really answered my question. I'm sensing collect on the first hit and follow your instincts.
     
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  19. The Midnight Skulker, Jul 1, 2018

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    You've been here a month and a half and you haven't figured out that most of the regulars have generic responses queued up, like dealing from a deck of cards without replacement? You're pretty slow on the uptake. :p Start a thread with "Mary had a little lamb" and five will get you ten there's a discussion about biased dice, learning to win, child trafficking, or the bubble machine (either Lawrence Welk's or Aruze's) in the thread. You'll have to lay odds if you're betting on an answer to a question.
    (No more bets.) For almost 50 years I played with various winning progressions, progressing after each hit such that I would be guaranteed a profit for the series after two hits. I am now using a take, parlay, take, parlay, ... which is certainly not an original idea but to which I might be able to supply an original label: Double Clutch Parlay. The philosophy is akin to what James Hall misses no opportunity to pitch, making one up as necessary: Get your buy-in off the table ASAP! By alternating "same bet" and "double up" you can't do worse than break even after only one hit while at the same time reaping nearly the same benefits of a steady winning progression if you catch a streak.
     
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  20. KokomoJoe4, Jul 1, 2018

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    This looks like $66 at risk after come out and placing. Assuming 10 line/20 odds and two 18 place bets, even three $21 winners has you $3 short of your outlay.

    Even a best case scenario on the line (a winner four or ten) will pay you $50, still not enough to cover your outlay.

    Since all wagers are at risk after come out, this should show you that multiple bets on the Do side of the game is not the smartest way to play unless/until you are ahead and playing with winnings.

    So my answer to your Q is to not make multiple wagers, at least until you are ahead. The losers have a tendency to gang up on you, and one loser at a time is much better than 3 at a time.
     
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