Beginner needs advice on practicing Place Betting

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  1. von duck, Jun 9, 2019

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    Never was much for disco, but The Bee Gees were pretty good. They were from a place you've probably never been. Australia, I think it was. :) Greg Norman was from there. He was pretty adapt, at extracting his ball from a "sand snare". :D
     
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  2. eagleeye2, Jun 9, 2019

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    Night Attack,

    It happens when I get the Dreaded ""Resource Limit Is Reached"" & then come back later...

    Likely happens to others also...

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  3. von duck, Jun 9, 2019

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    You guys are getting that resource limit thing? Hope it doesn't get me. :cool:
     
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  4. Bases loaded, Jun 9, 2019

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    We learned to disco dance cause the girls were into it.

     
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  5. Night Attack, Jun 12, 2019

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    Yes that is why the duck got into it as well.

     
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  6. SevenOut, Jul 5, 2019

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    John... I do not know you, but suggest you buy a $8 Craps Layout and work out some game plan. Any pair of dice will do. Use cents $, nickels $5, dimes $10, quarters as $25 as house chips. If your Bankroll does not include $25 wagers, leave out the quarters and stick to what your Bankroll will be. Not some imaginary game where you are a High Roller with $100 to... wager.

    Play smart. Any fool can toss chips around like they are worthless round pieces of fired clay discs.

    If you are too busy to do this... you need not ask any more questions.

    Buy John Scarne's books on Craps and Gambling.

    If I spent more than 45 minutes at a Craps Table... I have already lost by then. Start earning with LOW wagers and test your game. If you lose... you saved yourself some money. That is your classroom. Not imagining you found the secret to win, since everyone on this Forum can verify that there is not secret to success. It is obvious and sitting on the Craps Table's felt.
     
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  7. von duck, Jul 5, 2019

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    Where in the hell, did you ever see $10 chips on any craps table? :confused: MR CASINO. :D
     
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  8. SevenOut, Jul 5, 2019

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    Hey Genius.

    It is easier to use 10 cents/$10 than stacking two nickels. 'House Chips'. Not Casino chips.

    Have you always been that ignorant? Sometimes it is easier to ASK why, than thinking you are so observant.
     
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  9. von duck, Jul 5, 2019

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    Nice try MR CASINO. :D
     
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  10. SevenOut, Jul 5, 2019

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    Claridge Casino has $10 chips.
    Las Vegas Club, Las Vegas Club has $10 chips.

    Shall I go on? I believe these are specific for Poker Table games, but then again... you know it all.
     
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  11. basicstrategy777, Jul 5, 2019

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    That duck guy don't know shit.........he's the kinda guy that if it were raining pussy's he's get hit with a dick.

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  12. von duck, Jul 5, 2019

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    Yeah well I believe we were talking about craps. Wasn't the guy practicing his PLACE bets. It is likely that there are $10 chips of some kind somewhere. Never have seen any at any craps table, that's all I'm sayin. :cool:
     
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  13. yacraps, Jul 5, 2019

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    [email protected]#$king 777s.. LOL I will laugh for a week with this one..LOL ;)
     
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  14. Night Attack, Jul 6, 2019

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    Sorry to rain on your parade duck, but The Star casino here in Sydney has $10 chips at the craps table. Ignorant players bring them to the table and wager with them. If they lose the dealers take them and hand them straight to the box who puts them aside. The dealers never use them to pay out even if someone has one on the pass line. They will pay two red chips. Everyone hates those $10 chips at the craps table.
     
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  15. peterxl, Jul 22, 2019

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    Wow, thanks for you folks to sharing the ideas and advice. Am very beginner for this kind of games.
     
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  16. von duck, Jul 23, 2019

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    $10 chips huh? That's great NA, but word is that my casino is going to "go them one better". My understanding is, that my casino is going to introduce a new "$6 chip" to make place betting the 6/8 easier, for those that find it, really complicated, like say, TD Vegas :) I'll be sure to post a photo of this new denomination, as soon as it's available. :cool: They're also thinking about a new $11.66 chip, for Aussie's that make $10, 6/8, place bets. :D
     
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  17. KokomoJoe4, Jul 23, 2019

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    IMO,

    The best practice for place bets is to not make place bets.

    Math defines your "likelihood for success" in the game of craps, and it shows you negative expectation for every bet on the table except the odds bet.

    There are TWO reasons why a line bet is your best bet, where line is Pass, Come, Don't Pass or Don't Come.

    (1) You can parlay successive immediate winners/losers when these are winners, where an immediate result occurs 33% of the time. Parlays allow you to win more risking less.

    (2) These are the only four bets that can be coupled to the odds bet.

    Whether you line bet or place bet, your number has the same chance for success vs. the seven out:

    4 and 10 win 3 of every 9 decisions, 33% success rate expected.
    5 and 9 win 4 of every 10 decisions, 40%.
    6 and 8 win 5 of every 11 decisions, 45.5%.

    All of these percentages are significantly worse than the 49.3% expectation for success on a line bet, where the expectation with immediate winners/losers factors favorably for the player, hence the use of parlays.

    Variance, the variation from expectation, can work both ways and can not be predicted.

    How should you play craps? However you want to, it is your money at risk, not mine.

    As Vito told someone before his incident with the pool cue, "don't give me that aw shucks shit."
     
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  18. KokomoJoe4, Jul 23, 2019

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    I never learned BL, but I still got laid on occassion. o_O
     
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  19. The Midnight Skulker, Jul 23, 2019

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    During my taxi driving career I once took a middle age guy to a park where peculiar people congregate. (He fit right in.) When we pulled in a female similar in age to him approached and greeted him by name. He returned the salutation, adding, "Hey, show me some tit." She complied immediately. In that instant I realized why I also got laid only occasionally: I had been too subtle! I still lament that I learned this lesson only after becoming unable to profit from it. :(
     
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  20. Mssthis1, Jul 23, 2019

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    Sunday night on the bubble.

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    I was making lay bets. Switched to pass line after the 3 comeout sevens in a row.

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    Only took 10 minutes to get lucky. 6 points and 3 naturals. The ace deuce screwed my comeout progression. Even a blind dog finds a bone once in a while. I quit after the SO. The rolls starting at the 4/3 CO seven were last night. It was really choppy last night, Left $38 ahead. I was the only player in 2 hours to cash out ahead, mainly due to CO sevens.

    A friend who plays a field bet marty got murdered last night. In one spell there was only one field number in 23 rolls and no horn numbers in 50+ rolls.
     
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