Beginner needs advice on practicing Place Betting

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  1. twodicebilly, May 29, 2019

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    The reason there are different schools of thought is that some people feel the game is
    100% random...so what is the difference......the other folks feel it is certainly not 100%
    random, so they approach the game and betting from the standpoint of what ever to them
    shows it is not random.

    Frank indicated the five count lowers the money at risk of 57% and they even went so far as to
    suggest you use it on others dice setters until your sure they also have the same advantage you
    feel you have...

    Two of the three guys i play with use it, and we certainly do better moneywise than the third, but he is
    a gambler and will play 14 hours a day if you allow him to, we hit and run

    TDB
     
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  2. eagleeye2, Jun 4, 2019

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    So, Mssthis1, Just where did you CHART & Collect those 40,000 plus ROLLS & how long did It take you to do so???

    eagleeye2
     
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  3. eagleeye2, Jun 4, 2019

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    I Repeat:

    Wow von duck,

    You have STATED that the "Average Shooter is as GOOD AS You ARE"", with the above...

    That does NOT SAY MUCH ABOUT YOUR SHOOTING!!!

    At that rate, I WOULD DIFINETLY NOT BET ON EITHER OF YOU...

    eagleeye2!
     
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  4. Mssthis1, Jun 5, 2019

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    Casinos


    A little over 2 years.
     
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  5. von duck, Jun 5, 2019

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    My shooting sucks EE2. I make up for it, with the most ass kicking betting strategy ever devised. I can't let this "cat" out of the bag, but I can tell you that it involves NO come bets, or odds bets. That's all I can say, except that it is 100%, my own design. CHA-CHING! :cool: The dealers fk'n hate it too, and I feel so damned bad about that. :)
     
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  6. eagleeye2, Jun 5, 2019

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  7. von duck, Jun 5, 2019

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    I find your response to be a little weak. :)
     
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  8. eagleeye2, Jun 6, 2019

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    von duck,

    What you CALL ""WEAK"", I CALL a Statement of FACT, i.e.:

    But NO BETTING STRATEGY IN & OF ITSELF can make one a winner @ CRAPS!!!

    Unfortunately, it takes someone with the SKILL of what many on this thread call a ""DI"
    ", along with a Winning Betting Strategy, to end up a WINNER @ CASINO CRAPS...

    eagleeye2
     
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  9. Mssthis1, Jun 6, 2019

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    Maybe, maybe not.

    A conservative betting strategy that requires a wide departure from normal variance to make you a loser can stand up to a lifetime of net winning play. The more you play, the chances of it surviving a lifetime of play decreases.

    Think of it like the powerball lottery in reverse. Everyone is a small winner except for one poor schumk who catches the lightning strike of 1 in a million negative variance.
     
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  10. eagleeye2, Jun 6, 2019

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    Mssthis1,

    Would you be so benevolent as to Lay Out that BETTING STRATEGY for the folks here???

    eagleeye2
     
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  11. Mssthis1, Jun 6, 2019

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    I'm just saying that the more aggressive any strategy is the lower the chances of long term success. Betting across and pressing immediately is one of the worst unless you have a huge bankroll and make some adjustments for negative variance. Even then, it is still very vulnerable to negative variance, DI or no DI.

    If you played one time in the 60's, your aggressive strategy worked, and then you gave up casino craps, even a terrible strategy could mean a lifetime of being a "winner" in craps.

    Tough craps like TomP used to play is probably one of the best. It also takes significant bankroll sometimes.
     
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  12. James Hall, Jun 6, 2019

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    Read what Tom P posted on this forum about tough craps.
    If I knew how to find it again I would repost it.
     
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  13. eagleeye2, Jun 6, 2019

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    Mssthis1,

    Just what in your OPINION changed with CRAPS from the 60's to NOW, that enabled ""
    even a terrible strategy could mean a lifetime of being a "winner" in craps.""???

    eagleeye2
     
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  14. Mssthis1, Jun 6, 2019

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    Nothing has changed. There's one resident expert who got lucky with his strategy decades ago and now gambles once or twice a year with $100 of the winnings to ensure he ends up a lifetime winner.

    If you don't wish to play that way there's no value in listening to anything advise that person has to offer.
     
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  15. eagleeye2, Jun 6, 2019

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    Mssthis1,

    Your reply totally fails to explain how, as you stated: ""in the 60's, even a terrible strategy could mean a lifetime of being a "winner" in craps""???

    eagleeye2
     
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  16. von duck, Jun 6, 2019

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    My "weak" response, was to post #66, where YOU said nothing at all, go ahead, check it out. Unless TD is up to some of his shit. :cool:
    Mine is the only system ever devised, that actually defies the math. That's why I can't tell you more about it. What's really fun, is the way the dealers throw the money at you, when you win. :D There is nothing better than watching exasperation, on the other side of the table, for a change. :) CHING!
     
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  17. eagleeye2, Jun 6, 2019

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    von duck, I did not say ""nothing, as you state"", but the Post did get ahead of the formatting [/QUOTE]

    It Says;

    ""Sorry von duck,

    But NO BETTING STRATEGY IN & OF ITSELF can make one a winner @ CRAPS!!!

    Unfortunately, it takes someone with the SKILL of what many on this thread call a ""DI"
    ", along with a Winning Betting Strategy!!!""

    Yes, that's all in my POST # 66, check it out for yourself!

    eagleeye2
     
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  18. von duck, Jun 6, 2019

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    It Says;

    ""Sorry von duck,

    But NO BETTING STRATEGY IN & OF ITSELF can make one a winner @ CRAPS!!!

    Unfortunately, it takes someone with the SKILL of what many on this thread call a ""DI"
    ", along with a Winning Betting Strategy!!!""

    Yes, that's all in my POST # 66, check it out for yourself!

    eagleeye2[/QUOTE]
    No, it's not showing on my screen. I see this in post #68, but nothing on post #66. Anybody else see a reply in post #66? We'll get to the bottom of this. :cool:
     
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  19. eagleeye2, Jun 6, 2019

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    No, it's not showing on my screen. I see this in post #68, but nothing on post #66. Anybody else see a reply in post #66? We'll get to the bottom of this. :cool:[/QUOTE]


    It's there!!!

    eagleeye2
     
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  20. von duck, Jun 6, 2019

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    It's there!!!

    eagleeye2[/QUOTE]
    You too huh? :confused: I'm positive that this statement is true of any betting strategy, devised by YOU. It's a shame I can't post MINE, for scrutiny, but if I did that, then the cat would be out of the bag. Some secrets must be guarded, and this is one of them, I mean,some people's livelihood, could be at stake. Shhhhhhhhhh. :) I have a good name for my system, it's named after one of our posters, or several, as it were. I'm sure all of them would love the name. :D
     
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