Bally's & Paris ban DI

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by Dave G Ct, Jun 17, 2015.

  1. FrankScoblete, Jun 20, 2015

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    Happy to send anyone a free copy of the book and you can make up your own minds. Just send me a private message with your address and I will get the book out to you ASAP. (I Am a Dice Controller: Inside the World of Advantage-Play Craps!)
     
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  2. Dave G Ct, Jun 20, 2015

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    There are so many reality shows on cable. Why not one featuring a Dice crew? TD will be the central character - hating everyone! Onautopilot will lend humor and lighten the show up with his stories. SR is the local DI. Continue line of interesting players come and go each week.I would be glued to my set!
     
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  3. $nakeEye$, Jun 21, 2015

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    FWIW -

    If one reads the above " words of wit " by numerous posters on this forum - and one need not go beyond this particular thread -

    It should be quite obvious why most intelligent people who are somewhat knowledgeable about the game of craps avoid this forum like the plague ! -

    For instance - you have one individual who frequents AC and Las Vegas with his wife but is more content playing the " bubble craps " machines in his home state of NY -

    Unknown to HIM he lives a hop skip and a jump from at least THREE proficient DI's who also reside on Long Island - BigBen, Frank Scoblete and JoePrudent - NOT to mention a slew of individuals who live on the West side of the Hudson -

    Those include Amato, AmishDude, GoLiquid and his lovely wife Alka, 8x8x8, CoalMiner, SoSerious, Wizard, karpatylvov, pappyvanwinkle, Dicenator, Bob W. and crew from PA, to name ONLY a handful of proficient dice influencers from the NY/NJ metropolitan area -

    Then we move south to the DC area where we have a conglomerate of GTC schooled individuals who frequent the East Coast and Las Vegas casinos-

    I could go on and on and on - however MOST people who I know - do NOT have " screen names / internet handles " and only go by their actual names -

    Therefore THEY will NOT be mentioned here -

    The above list does NOT include the few local LV individuals I have been fortunate to make their acquaintance - these include Koi, Tony " Dice Guy " , VDC / TSC , Howard Rock'n'Roller, and a slew of others -

    What " I " am trying to say is simply the following :

    " If YOU walk up to a craps table and observe what is going on around you - you will see a few people who have the ability to influence the odds in the game of craps - thereby turning it into a positive expectation game " -

    If YOU are unable to make the distinction from Random Rollers and " others " - YOU should be totally content to play the " bubble " -

    Because - in YOUR mind - WE do NOT exist !

    FYI - I have shot craps with ALL of the above PLUS others - and there is NO doubt about their expertise and ability at the tables !

    Maybe / obviously NOT ALL the time - BUT - enough to alter the odds !

    $...eE..$
     
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  4. FrankScoblete, Jun 21, 2015

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    Good post.
     
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  5. basicstrategy777, Jun 21, 2015

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    Snake....I think you are a little off-base here with the ..'.avoid this forum. '

    We have all types here, with a wealth of experience regarding the game.....even some DI proponents....and they are free to give us their side.

    I think this board ,overall , does not think DI works and are skeptical. They express that sentiment, but not too harshly. Harshly, but not too harshly

    I understand you are passionate about it but there just is a difference of opinion. I don't think that is a good reason to condemn the board. IMHO.

    Good luck at the tables Snake...really.

    777
     
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  6. Onautopilot, Jun 21, 2015

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    FWIW?

    It is worth much the same as any other anecdotal account of one's experiences, no more, no less. What you say might be true, but saying it over and over, slower and slower, louder and louder, does not make it true.
     
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  7. KokomoJoe4, Jun 21, 2015

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    The good to great roll seen by one to be an obvious example of influence is seen by another as good fortune in a random game.

    So be it. The problem is when one observer or the other becomes too insistent on the "correctness" of his position, and on the obvious "idiocy" of his detractor.

    We are all able to make up our own minds on the matter.

    I have seen some "regularly" good shooters. Not always good, but decent to good more often than not. One such shooter sets and tosses carefully. The majority do not. When betting on numbers they are rolling, their style/beliefs are of no consequence.
     
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  8. Dave G Ct, Jun 21, 2015

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    Well Snakeeyes is calling a few people out. I know exactly who these heroes are. Is it a coincidence that they are both married to that popcorn machine. Anyways those that are most against the concept of DI hope that it is not true maybe because they cannot do it?
    I expect we will hear from the prince of LI and the phantom of Vegas. TD - I have been getting pms concerning you. Let' s say they are a little tired of your act. One implies you do not even live there? Just someone who took a trip to Vegas a time ago and now relives each moment each day on the keyboard trying to make himself " relevant" Now I happen to believe TD does live there. TD just relaying what others have suggested.
     
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  9. superrick, Jun 21, 2015

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    Have you ever heard of lucky rollers? There are plenty of them that are not so-called DI's that just about every time you see them they are getting on a roll? I see these kind of shooters all the time and will tell a DI buddy to bet on them when they are shooting. They tell me that I'm nuts that the shooter is just one of those damn random rollers and they wouldn't waste on red chip on them. Well fifty rolls later they see the light when the shooter sevens out!

    There is a young lady shooter that always came into town from LA. If you didn't bet on her, you were a damn fool. I see these kind of shooters all the time and still will remind everybody here who holds the world record for the longest roll,....That's right one of those damn random rollers, before she broke that record of one more dam random rollers. That is of course if you don't believe the fiction that the Madprofessor wrote about Stanley Fujitake of Honolulu, that set the record nearly 20 years ago in Las Vegas.

    The Madprofessor tried to pass off Stanley as a DI and he wasn't! You can do the research for yourself to find out that what the Madprofessor wrote about him was just fiction.

    I know just about all of the guys that Snakeyes wrote about,.. I've been on the tables with most of them! None of them will have great rolls every time they pick up the dice, just like a lucky random roller.

    I played craps with Koi this past week and he and I both had what anybody would call great rolls.

    But the first time Koi had a short roll he colored up and got off the table. There isn't a so-called DI out there that never has a bad day at the tables we don't win every time we hit the tables! If we did there would be no craps tables in any casino, or you wouldn't be allowed to set the dice!

    None of Snakeyes list of DI's are taking hundreds of thousands of dollars off the tables a year, like is in just about every book that is written about the so-called DI's. I still say that with all of the table time we get, we are bound to have good rolls, just like the so-called random rollers.

    I have never met Snakeyes, so I don't know how he shoots, nor Bigben and a few other that he wrote about, from the New Jersey area. I only get up that way every few years. To top it all off I have always hated AC. I think that I will be in AC in the fall of this year, those plans have not been finalized. Now I'm not trying to take away anything from the above shooter, I'm just telling it like it really is. All of Snakeyes shooters have good and bad days!

    Living around Vegas, we get to see all kinds of shooters, some are just random rollers that get lucky,..others are so-called DI's that still get lucky when they are shooting,..but those shooters have a audience when they are on the tables with other so-called DI's and when they get on a roll everybody is going to hear about! So-called random rollers do not have craps boards that they hang out on boards telling everybody that they are the worlds best shooters. They do not have anybody writing about them. Their rolls are never recorded anywhere unless they are on the wall at the Fremont, or the California casinos.

    Most of those shooter that are on the walls are just random rollers that got lucky, if you don't believe me, the next time your in Vegas see if any of Snakeyes DI's are on those walls. You will not find Heavy, Frank, or any other so-called DI's that I know about on those walls. I may be mistaking, if so tell me which DI's are on those walls.


    GTC is in town this weekend, see if anybody from there made it on those walls!
     
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  10. TDVegas, Jun 21, 2015

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    I'll tell you what Dave...suggest a way for me to prove I live here. I've already squelched one of your lies about Ballys and Paris. So, as far as honesty...YOU are the one in question, not me. Lie once....and all credibility goes out the door.

    I have not lied or made up anything I've reported on. You have.

    If pictures can be uploaded to the site, I'll post the pictures I took of my visit to the Strip last week. Maybe one of your pals can verify the Corvette in the entrance lobby at Ballys---blue. Anything else you would like as proof?

    The reality is no one will know that they are at a table with someone who is actually influencing dice unless they log thousands of their rolls and make the mathematical determination that they have skewed the probabilities. Random rollers do on occassion have good rolls. That just might be you.

    All others are just claiming a skill. Setting dice and having a mechanical toss does NOT mean one is a dice influencer or at a table with an influencer. You might be trying, but based on your limited visits to the casino---you have no clue if you are influencing results.
     
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  11. Onautopilot, Jun 21, 2015

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    PM's about other posters.....backyard gossip bull shit! Ya got something to say to somebody, say it! If ya ain't got the balls to do that, then what you have to say ain't worth hearing anyway!
     
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  12. TDVegas, Jun 21, 2015

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    here, here.
     
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  13. Dave G Ct, Jun 21, 2015

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    What can I say. I believe you live there. But pms that I received are beginning to question your credentials!
     
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  14. TDVegas, Jun 21, 2015

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    I have no "credentials" but I do live here. If those who question that want to come out of the woodwork, I'll gladly post more pics.
     
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  15. Dave G Ct, Jun 21, 2015

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    You have a new nickname " No show TD".
     
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  16. Dave G Ct, Jun 21, 2015

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    One PM called you " the Ross Porot" of Dice. A paranoid malcontent hiding in his bunker.
     
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  17. Onautopilot, Jun 21, 2015

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    Who are these chicken shit PM'ers, that don't have the balls to say something direct? Can't believe you entertain their crap! Or maybe you are creating some PM sock puppets?
     
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  18. TDVegas, Jun 21, 2015

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    You could at least get the name right...

    As I stated, For what purpose do the people PM'ing you want to meet me?
     
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    Now Im the prince of LI.
    It amazes me that because I do not believe in something someone else believes in, Im ridiculed, sometimes attacked.(I guess that's the way Isis thinks, eliminate anyone who disagrees with their beliefs)


    I have zero problems with any DI shooter, Id play on any table with them, for me, its all random, what someone feels for themselves, not my business nor do I care.
    do whatever you want at a table as long as you don't cheat or rob me.

    The real problem I see, now its clear, is that DI shooters refuse to accept any other responses to their claims of great advantage shooting.
    They will not accept any other views, because theirs is 100% right in their eyes/minds

    I do not concern myself that there are other craps players close to me.
    Ofcourse I know this, there are probably 200 so called di practitioners within 10 miles of me.
    Why on earth it bothers them that I play bubble craps and enjoy it, is so far beyond comprehension, like why on earth do they give a rats ass if I enjoy bubble craps more than live tables.
     
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  20. Dave G Ct, Jun 21, 2015

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    They email me because I will take him on. On PM was from a poster who used to post here but could not put up with the TD nonsense
     
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