Aruze Gaming Roll to Win with 10X odds

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    Live dealer who inputs the dice results

    Live dice for those that want to practice dice influencing

    Big display showing past rolls
     
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    Notice anything peculiar about the dice? :confused: :)
     
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  4. Bases loaded, Jun 18, 2020

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    We've discussed this set up before.

    The fact someone actually throws the dice makes this somewhat palatable to old time players.

    Just need to figure out how to allow the shooter to make his/her bets and not lose their seat or get it ripped off while at table shooting.

    If this caught on it could be big for the casinos.
     
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    This game gives slot points.

    In 2X for bubble craps, teams were betting $75 with $150 in odds.

    In this game, it’s $15 with same $150 in odds. Big difference.
     
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    From Harrahs, CA....
     
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    That game in the video is 3X - 4X - 5X

    This game is 10X oddd.
     
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    Where?
     
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  9. von duck, Jun 19, 2020

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    you do not lose or leave your seat to shoot. It plays much like the table game, except that all of the wagering, is on your personal touchscreen. It eliminates most player caused delays, and there are no chips for the dice to hit, and cause the dice to seven out. :D Some "ass around" dealers and players, slow the game down, but all in all, it probably produces about the same number of roles as a standard table. The fact that the game allows you to bet any amount between limits, and pays the bets to the penny, might appeal to some system players. The one I've seen was using a set of Opaque dice, which I find somewhat disquieting. :confused: The machine I saw did not allow 10X odds, I think it was 5X. :cool:
     
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    Oh Boy! Slot points. :) I'm going to buy a plane ticket, over-pay for a room, pay resort fees, rent a car. Pay $7 for a dipped apple, and then make it all back, plus a profit, by accumulating, "slot points". :confused: Yeah right. :cool:
     
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    The Harrahs video sheds a little more light on the apparatus. It looks like the shooter has access to a touch screen at his shooting 'station'. The shooter seems to be 'corralled' into an area with the padded separators.

    I didn't watch all 40 minutes but I did not get any perspective on where the other players are? Is there a stadium seating area overlooking the table? That is the appeal for the casino, you could have hundreds of terminals linked to a single table. Very profitable.

    I don't like the table surface. Hard plexiglass? Throwing dice on that doesn't look natural. I don't think DI's are going to like that.

    When the shooter's hand ends, does he have a terminal station to go back to? How is the order of the next shooter chosen?

    This may be too big a technical jump for us.
     
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    Ok, I've seen another video which shows a different perspective of the table. I see what looks like 8 terminals for players arrayed around the table. So I guess it is not a stadium game, and you stay at your terminal at the table.

    Way too much lights and graphics.

    The appeal to a casino would be adding players, set up the terminals around the table, the more players connected to a single game the more profitable it is.

    Where is AHIGH when you need him?
     
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    It very similar to a regular table. The players ( up to 10) sit at touch screens which are part of the table. The thrower stands in front of his touch screen to throw, he doesn't go anywhere. When not throwing, most players sit in the seats provided. The additional large screen display, ( apart from the table), is just for show right now, but may be there, with the idea of adding more touchscreens, apart from the table, in the future, for those that don't care to shoot. :cool:
     
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    The "DI's" would LOVE the plexiglass surface. When the dice hit the plexiglass, they go almost dead. You or I would think otherwise, but I've played on these tables, and the surface, is dead as a door nail. The one I saw, was using Opaque Dice, which I find a little suspect. The dice rotate around the table, just like, in the "real" game. I like everything about it, except the Opaque dice. And the bubble players that migrated to this game, instead of the bubble. They have to ask the dealer 20 questions, just to place a field bet. :confused:
     
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    Thanks for explanations, Duck.
     
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    I played this game at Four Winds in New Buffalo, MI. The players stand around the table and you bet on your personal touch screen. It takes cash or slot tickets. Only 3 guys were playing when I was there. It has room for 8 players due to social distancing. The $5 min bet is less than $15 at the regular table. It takes some getting used to. There is a timer to keep the game moving.
     
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    works for me, keep the game moving at a good pace and don't have to worry about dealers making mistakes, exact payouts, and only one dealers, casino saves a lot, I can live with this version from now on. especially since I wont have to handle chips anymore and stand on long lines to turn them back into cash. (it really sucks when youre tired, and lost, and only have a few chips, but the line is 20 people long and everyone on line is cashing a check or 19 slot tickets.

    yep, Im all for it, cant wait to play it.
     
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    I like the rays of light shooting to display your bets. might have to wear sunglasses to play
     
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    One problem I see is that it's awkward to tip the dealer, if you so wish. No chips to throw to them etc. they could incorporate a tip function into the touchscreen, and credit the tips onto the dealers touchscreen, but I'll bet it never happens. If the casinos insist on paying dealers minimum wage, then they need to provide a convenient means of tipping. They would also do well to abandon the Opaque dice. The one at Harrah's Cherokee, has stools at each player position. Probably only seats 6 now, instead of ten.
     
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    I would think a dead surface like this offers would be a DI dream come true. I would also think the glass surface might allow for a little dice sliding possibilities. 3rd thing is there is only 1 set of eyes, it might be easier to circumvent the rules of the game.

    I’d love to see this installed near me....might get me to start thinking about advantage play on the tables. I’ve already covered the bubble.:);)
     
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