Article obliterates dice control

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  1. TDVegas, Jul 14, 2015

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  2. tabletop123, Jul 14, 2015

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    Well, TDVegas, the Article is on the Internet so it Must be True, huh? I've stated that DI'ng is definitely Overrated, but to say it's a scam is wrong. I think that the way SOME People are teaching it is Misleading. However, there ARE people that do possess that Uncanny ability to exhibit Marginal Influence. Yes, they are VERY, VERY Few, but nevertheless they Do exist as "Outliers". I'm beginning to think that MAYBE Howard is one of the Chosen few, but not ABSOLUTELY sure yet.

    I will say this: I don't think there's more than ten People in the world that Possess the "Gift". Those that do have the Gift were born with it, & if that happen to be a DI, the Synchronized tossing of the Dice ONLY Magnifies a skill that was ALREADY Inherent! I 've posted on this board that I actually Met an "Outlier' at my Local casino, & NO she is NOT a DI. She also will NOT bet more than $5 on the Passline, NEVER presses a Bet. It's hard to believe, but these People do Exist.

    Now, as far as some that Post on these Boards...... Anything's Possible. I mean, If I were an "outlier", I certainly wouldn't have time for a Craps Forum. I'd be in a Casino Printing money. However, people will utilize their time as they deem Necessary, Regardless of what others think. One thing's for Certain TD......... We do know of One person that's NOT an outlier On this Forum. Can you say TDVegas? LOL
     
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    Article is pretty damn solid. You say there ARE people that possess the ability. You don't know because no one has done the research needed to prove it. Yet you emphatically state there are. You don't know for sure. I will also state I do not know for a fact if they exist or not but I think the evidence pointed to in this article makes a damn fine argument that they don't exist.
     
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  4. $nakeEye$, Jul 14, 2015

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    tabletop123 -

    As much as I like you - I NEED to disagree with your synopsis regards " being born with it " -

    Were YOU ' born with the skill to shoot pool " - HARDLY ! -

    Was Tiger Woods ' born with skill to play golf ' - HARDLY ! -

    Was Dwight D. Eisenhower ' born with the skill to become Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces during WWII - and - then President of the USA " - HARDLY -

    Perhaps - the above - and others - possessed an inner motivation / drive to excel themselves among their peers -

    BUT - THEY were NOT ' BORN WITH IT " -

    Rockefeller, Trump, Getty, Jay Gould, et others - " were born with IT - the " silver / gold spoon " imbedded so far up their asses they knew their shit did NOT stink !

    ALL of their servants told them so ! -

    One develops skills as they take this journey through life -

    Some make it - some do not -

    MY belief - is simply thus -

    One gets out of it - what one is inclined to put into it -

    In a " nutshell " -

    " NOTHING ventured - NOTHING gained " ! -

    THAT is MY OPINION -

    Opinions are like assholes -

    Everyone has ONE -

    MOST of them STINK !

    THAT is a " Fact, Jack " ! ;)

    $...eE..$
     
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  5. TDVegas, Jul 14, 2015

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    Uh huh...and you think they are here in the dice influence forum trying to convince me?
     
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    TDVegas -

    Not to burst your bubble -

    I personally know at least 1 dozen - if not more - GTC graduates -

    IF - YOU - think for ONE IOTA of ONE SECOND -

    That when these guys /gals come to Vegas -

    The casinos' " ears do not perk up " -

    Obviously - the answer is NO - as YOU have NO clue at to what reality inside a casino is -

    It is a ' bit more ' than playing your slots game / Keno game / Video Poker game -

    Listen - with ALL due respect - and that is NOT much -

    YOU go YOUR way - WE will go OUR way -

    And we will meet when we take pix of the fat asses you are so inclined to photograph !

    I have been away from law enforcement for over 25 years -

    However, IIRC - there IS a TERM for people who do WHAT YOU DO !

    WHY does the name Pee Wee Herman come to mind ?

    $...eE..$
     
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    Negative, SnakeEyes! I WAS born with the talent. I was playing "50 No Count" Straight Pool at the age of 9. Now, that means that during any inning if you don't Pocket at least 50 balls, the inning does not Count. Sure, as a Kid, I had to learn strategies(When to play safe, get aggressive, etc), but the "Ball Pocketing" ability was there from the very first time that I hit a Ball.

    I used to stand on a Milk crate & shoot pool at such an early age. Same thing with three card monte. I saw a Game ONE time & I picked up on it IMMEDIATELY. Couldn't "Cup" the Card because at the age of 11 my hands were too small, but I circumvented that "Shortcoming", & still "Got the Job Done". I will agree that people Practice to perfect a Skill, but let's face it, SOME people are far ahead of others in certain Areas.

    Now, Howard is an artist. You don't think That had something to do with his Success with the Dice? Superior Hand/Eye coordination! The guy was already gifted with Superior Hand/Eye coordination. Sometimes it transitions over to other hand/eye required tasks, & Obviously from what you guys have professed, it transitioned over to Howard's dice Tossing skills. You cannot tell me that Hard work & Practice will "Get you there. Only if you already possess an inherent Talentl. Listen, I know a slew of "Stake horses (Backers) in Pool that Practiced Pool day & Night & just couldn't "Get There".. That's why they ended up as "Stake Horse". Wanted to experience Championship Status Vicariously through other "Gifted" players.
     
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  8. tabletop123, Jul 14, 2015

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    TD, It wouldn't matter with you. You are "Bent" on Marginal Influence by SOME as being impossible. If a person Bellied Up to a table & tossed Successive Hands of 57, 23, 45, 32, & 19, You'd say it was Pure Luck!
     
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    tabletop123 -

    " Remarkable " - ALL BS aside ! -

    Granted " some " are " born with it " -

    THEY - as YOU - are the SELECT FEW -

    The others - need to ' develop skills either THEY were instilled with -

    OR - their parents were instilled with ' and needed to pass on their ' expertise down the family lines ' ! -

    Looking back on it - " I " would take an ' educated guess ' - that your ' inherent ' skills were developed due to ' circumstances ' -

    Regardless -

    YOU - and YOU alone - achieved success due to ?

    • a " born " skill
    • a developed skill
    • a desire to eat today even though you ate yesterday
    • a desire to eat tomorrow even though you ate today and yesterday
    • a desire to achieve success regardless of the consequences !
    I am going to take a ' dumb ' guess and go with the last !

    Someday - you need to teach me how to write like you do ! ;)

    God Bless !

    $...eE..$
     
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  10. TDVegas, Jul 15, 2015

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    More delusions of grandeur. If the casinos were so concerned, so afraid, so scared that your degenerate friends were going to beat them...they would simply prevent these people from playing at all. Why even risk it? They don't need your $5 bets.

    It's amazing how stupid you are, $nark.

    No wonder east side is the best you can do. Let me guess. Arizona Charlie's? I'm thinking $2.99 buffet is your night eating out.

    I'm thinking Barney Fife here...
     
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    So then, why hasn't this Howard been banned? Mr. 70 rolls bragging all over. Why hasn't he simply gone into the black book or Griffin book? Why is this advantage player allowed to play? If he was a card counter, bragging all over and putting runs together like he did in Biloxi (or was it Tunica)...why is the casino risking it? They ban card counters. Why is Howard exempt?

    It's all bull$hit, it really is. Your first indication that DI exists would come from the casinos themselves with banning. They would simply prevent these players from playing. There is not 1 SINGLE casino on record as having banned one of these degenerates. They know they are suckers and welcome them. Your buddy Dom the Dominator already switched over to sports betting after losing his shirt at craps.

    Casinos ban card counters. THAT is documented. They don't give a rats ass about $nark and his degenerate friends driving into Vegas in a 78 Cutless. Jeez.
     
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    TDVegas -

    Listen, my friend -

    In ALL seriousness -

    YOU need to hold the paper target at the Municipal Outdoor Range while my better half is shooting the short barrel revolver -

    YOU do NOT have to worry -

    She shoots guns as well as she shoots dice -

    I can not promise you a ride to the range in Dave's 78 Cutlass -

    I can NOT guarantee that " LuckyLady " just might have a ' lucky session ' -

    In ALL humility - AND - in ALL reality -

    YOU are the ONE who is FULL of BULL SHIT ! -

    Dominic will wipe your sorry little ass like a wet mop on a dirty floor -

    I have never had the pleasure of making his acquaintance -

    But I will say THIS -

    HE and I are " Jersey Boys " -

    And we do NOT take being ' Fucked With ' lightly !

    As is SuperRick -

    Along with a slew of others who frequent your hallowed slots halls -

    YOU " TALK " a game which you have NO inkling what it's about -

    YOU are a " TOTAL WASTE " of this forum's time, and energy -

    YOU have been invited to observe " REAL " craps shooting by some of the " BEST " -

    Yet - YOU - hide behind your keyboard and elect to belittle people who possess more skill in their fingertips than you ever will in your entire body !

    You do live up to your moniker -

    " TotalDickLasVegas" !

    $...eE..$
     
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    TD you have lost credibility on this site. You were invited on more than one occasion to spend time at the tables and observe first hand what happens with DI. You turned that offer down stating you have no interest. But yet you come out here and claim that there is no proof that DI exist. We are all confused. If you have no interest then why all the posts?
    You had your chance to blow this whole thing out of the water but yet you turned it down more than once.

    I think you are afraid there might be some truths about DI and you would have to come back here and eat your words. Or even worse you can't talk bad about it anymore. I think people on this forum should just ignore you and don't reply to yours posts. You won't go away but it will be funny as hell watching you have conversations by yourself,
     
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    TDVegas, you must understand that Howard is selling a service. These "Rolls" that Howard gets on are good advertising for His Classes. It's Howard's job to Post trip reports that are successful. What better way to Garner potential future students? Listen, this is the internet, so of Course things are SOMETIMES embellished. However, there's SOMETHING going on with Howard, because there's too many people Praising his shooting Prowess. Certainly, Howard hasn't paid all of the posters to lie for him, huh? Must be SOME Validity to these Monster Rolls. Of Course You'd just say it was all one big conspiracy to perpetrate a fraud on the unsuspecting Suckers, right?

    There are "Others" on this Forum that are just as Talented as Howard, but they don't Toot a Horn, because they have nothing to sell. One of the Poster's is a DI & Dam Near Dismisses the DI'ng thing just about every time He Posts. Some people just don't want the Recognition. They are content Plowing along & making a Few Coins along the way. I do know this from Experience: Most of the true hustler's shun the Lime Light. They don't reveal their Real Name. They don't get their Pictures taken. They don't travel in groups. They usually don't even want you to know that they exist. However, You must acknowledge that they do exist, because when you check your back pocket.......... Your wallet's normally missing!
     
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    How do you know Total Dick exists and plays craps in Vegas? Has anyone seen him? He has no reason to not be seen, but we do know about MP even if he shuns the limelight.
     
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  16. TDVegas, Jul 15, 2015

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    Why hasn't Howard been banned from playing if what you say is true. A card counter(advantage player) is not taken lightly by the casino and is dealt with quickly. They do not just let him play and "see what happens." Once he has been "fingered" and told his play is no longer wanted, his picture is sent out to all the other casinos. Why hasn't this honcho of DI been banned? Why hasn't ANY DI been banned? Why is there not 1 single independent report of a casino (ala card counters) banning DI or a DI player. Where are the lawsuits (like with card counters?)...where is the casino on record discussing DI. With card counting it is out in the open--the casinos acknowledge it and talk about it. I cannot find one single solitary comment on DI from ANY casino executive or casino security employee.

    You guys have invented something in your own minds and let the internet screw with your brain in thinking you can do it. DeMento is one that comes to mind. The casinos could not care less about you guys. All they see is "sucker" printed on your forehead when you walk thru the door.

    Howard is going to end up like your other friend Dom the Scaminator. Waiting for the sales pitch on sports handicapping...LOL.
     
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    DeMento! I like it! But I like Total Dick better. Still hasn't answered where he REALLY lives.
     
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  18. TDVegas, Jul 15, 2015

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    Summerlin South.
     
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    Which is why you haven't run into the Henderson "crowd"
     
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    I had agreed to meet $nark to witness DI firsthand. It was all set. He then said I needed to follow him into the bathroom first when we arrived at the casino (your guess is as good as mine). I think you can see why I passed. There's something wrong there:confused:
     
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