Are Some Few Posters Ruining It For Others?

Discussion in 'General Craps Discussion' started by FrankScoblete, Jun 10, 2015.


  1. Liman

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    exactly the point I tried to make,

    I posted once playing in Valley Forge casino, A di tosser with a perfectly consistent toss, robotic, smooth looking, (ok, what do I know, he looked like hes practiced a lot), made me a lot of money because I was come betting and he was hitting 4's like there were only 4s on the dice.
    He didn't make a nickel.
    didn't make any sense to me, obviously, he never expected to roll a 4.
     
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  2. Harley, Jun 13, 2015

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    Frank S. - let's revisit 1 of the main reasons you had to start this thread in the 1st place - The Captain, Your Captain

    From another Gambling forum that doesn't allow links so I will not give one back (PM me if you need it):

    ... TSC goes on to explain in his same post:

    "Now lets tell some TRUTH now. I talked to Howard Rock N Roller, recently. I said let me get this straight. You were with Frank and Dom for just 5 years correct? Yes he replied. Doing 6+ seminars a year throughout the Country? Yes. Also meeting for dinners, pre practice, post debriefing meetings, etc over 5 years. YES he replied. From 2003-2008-9? Yes he replied. And just once, just once did you ever see This Captain talked about in Franks book? I mean you were with them all, played with them all, had dinner with them all. I would think just once he would have been introduced to all you 'Partners' in the Company? Played a session with you all Privately? If not playing a session, then at least dinner on one of the many East Coast tours over those 2000 days with the Company. Just once? Howards response to me.... NEVER.... So heres a guy that worked with them for 2000+ days and NEVER played, broke bread, never introduced behind closed doors, NEVER....NEVER...NEVER..."

    I too have talked to Howard Rock n' Roller - one of your former trusted Crew and business partner and Howard confirmed the same as this poster .... we need mo' proof Frank ... your response or lack thereof will tell the tail
     
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  3. KokomoJoe4, Jun 13, 2015

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    What I find most interesting about Frank's original post is that he does not identify the "problemed-posters" or the problem "topic" of discussion.

    I have found that when I have an issue with something an individual says or does, the best way to deal with the matter is to discuss said issue with the individual.

    It is agreed that such dialog would be essentially useless in a situation where the adversary's only intention is an attack.

    The topic of dice influence/control is one that will place an individual in one of three or four camps: (1) it is doable and helpful, (2) it is a crock of shit, (3) don't know or care, and (4) never really thought about it.

    Regardless of which if any of these lines of thought is correct, what is true is that some individuals were smart enough to profit from the topic of discussion, even if they never played the game of craps. As I have stated repeatedly, for a long time now, this is the mark of a successful entrepreneur.
     
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  4. 50/50

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    Who is TSC and why should his opinion be any more or less valuable than yours or Frank's?
     
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    I don't believe name dropping is necessary. Here is an entrepreneur that wrote that he is an actor who played a gambler in a stage play. When the play ended he went to Atlantic City to find out what real gambling is like because he knew nothing about it.

    Then he who never played in a casino anywhere in his life and couldn't recognize a shooter if the dice hit him in the head, suddenly has the expertise and talent to recognize the "Greatest Craps Shooter in the World!" from among one table of players?

    My guess is one who has never played craps does not have the skills or experience from which to pick the "Greatest Craps Shooter in the World!" from one casino.

    But later it turns out the Greatest Craps Shooter in the World is actually not because his female partner The Arm is better and they made millions playing craps and lived happily ever after.

    Oh...and they passed the magical torch of skillful shooting on to this author who just wanted to understand gambling but became perhaps the third Greatest Craps Shooter in the World. And he is generous enough to pass the magical torch on to several others who became his disciples and some of us know today they do not make millions of dollars playing craps.

    We know they are lucky to make minimum wages for time spent instructing at the seminars and they pay their own expenses. Probably the biggest take among them is the guy who apparently stiffed the author by ringing up lots of expenses on the authors credit card.

    Now doesn't that sound like something a class act of millionaires would need to do or would bother to complain about? After all, the author was taught directly by the "Greatest Craps Shooter in the World" so he and the "Team Mates" he still knows, ought to be able to take that much off the tables in no time flat! Yet he apparently has moved on to greener pastures and now boasts and sells books and instruction about advantage blackjack play.

    Ladies and gentlemen .... the line forms at the right! Get 'em while they are hot!
     
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  6. Harley, Jun 13, 2015

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    50/50 - TSC is VegasDiceController who owns TrendSetterCraps and lives in Las Vegas and a friend of SnakeEyes and mine, but more importantly a playing companion with Howard Rock n' Roller who was part owner of Frank Scoblete's Golden Touch Craps and on Frank's personal craps crew as identified in Frank's latest book.

    I agree name dropping is not necessary, but these are real people that can add to the evidence that the Captain's exploits are as you described in your last post
     
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    Thanks for that reply. I'm not familiar with the acronyms for every posters handle. My post is just a mini book report and things I've heard from past instructors associated with the author.

    But being TSC is VegasDiceController who owns TrendSetterCraps and lives in Las Vegas and a friend of SnakeEyes and more importantly a playing companion with Howard Rock n' Roller who was part owner of Frank Scoblete's Golden Touch Crapsand on Frank's personal craps crew as identified in Frank's latest book.

    It begs the question: Why is his story about craps and dice any more credible than Heavy's who owns "Axis Power Craps" and gives lessons in Las Vegas, and is also a friend of SnakeEyes and sponsors and promotes dice lessons with Howard Rock n Roller?
     
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  8. Dave G Ct, Jun 13, 2015

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    I would think they would ask about this Captain ( sure they would all read his book) Wouldn' t they question him - Who is this person?
     
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  10. Pressit, Jun 14, 2015

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    Frank

    Here is a question for you which may or may not help your cause with the Captain. To the your best of your memory when did the Captain pass on, and just as important when did he roll his last game?
     
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    You have to ask what do they all have in common - they are selling something ... each person has their own "Captain":

    Heavy has his fictional character MisterAK or his own exaggerated stories when he is only playing with himself or his paid crew AND Mad Professor's fictional tales to promote his classes. Now he has Howard Rock n' Roller doing the same exaggeration.

    Howard has the exaggerated stories of Koi (we know Koi who doesn't have internet and tells us the truth about his play with Howard) and himself (he even told SnakeEyes that he was going to round up his toss numbers for the trip report post).

    Frank has the exaggerated stories of The Arm, The Captain and Dominator - all real people just exaggerated craps stories.


     
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  12. $nakeEye$, Jun 15, 2015

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    Harley -

    The very least you can do is to spell my handle correctly - for the record it is - " $nakeEye$ " -

    Furthermore - THAT particular roll you are referencing was embellished from an actual " 39 " to a posted " 40 " !

    Solely - for YOUR records !

    Additionally, since Koi has NO internet access and NO interest in this back and forth bickering -

    What purpose does it to serve to involve this fine elderly Gentleman into your circus ?

    $...eE..$
     
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  13. Harley, Jun 15, 2015

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    Dave and 50/50 - they all use the same MO to promote each other and as long as they are business partners, they will support each other's fiction .... Heavy and Howard and Mad Professor are business partners and they all support the fictional existence of new high roller MisterAK

    Now ask Heavy or his paid assistant irish anything about the Captain and Frank S over the past 10 years and they will put them down because they were competitors. Now Heavy is attacking Dom...

    Take a good look at these email correspondence with Dom (The Dominator) - Frank's old partner in crime:

    On Fri, Apr 10, 2015, [email protected] wrote:

    Hi there,

    As you are aware, today is the deadline to qualify for the discounts on any of my craps seminars so I thought I would send you a personal email to check in.

    Please call me at 866-738-3423 or reply to this email to let me know if you are interested in attending. I would be happy to add you in to the registrations list.

    If not, hope you have success in your all craps adventure. Till next time!

    Good luck!

    - Dom (The Dominator)
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    On April 10, 2015 Xxxxxxx wrote:

    Did you read what Frank wrote about you in his new book?

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    From: [email protected]
    Date: Fri, Apr 10, 2015
    Subject: Re: Invitation: Reminder - LAST CHANCE at Midnight Tonight
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    On April 10, 2015 Xxxxxxx wrote:

    Thanks for validating that Frank is writing fiction. ... Given that he has been caught lying and writing fiction, I am now wanting to read your take on what he says.

    Take care,
    Xxxxxxx

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    On Fri, Apr 10, 2015, [email protected] wrote:

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    On April 10, 2015 Xxxxxxx wrote:

    Fair enough. The craps community is calling out Frank on the 'fiction writing', and some of the others how he named in his book are saying the same as you are saying, 'no need to comment on what is clearly fiction'.

    There are other fiction writers in the community too - Mad Professor, who says he has an SRR of 28 and plays frequently in the Canadian/New York Casinos. For someone who is a sharpshooter like this, nobody has ever seen this guy play or much less ever meet the guy. Yet, he is an authority on DI and writes books on the subject.

    Go figure....

    Have a great weekend. Win big!
    Xxxxxxx

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    [email protected] wrote:
    Date: Fri, Apr 10, 2015
    Subject: Re: Invitation: Reminder - LAST CHANCE at Midnight Tonight
    To: Xxxxxxx

    Thanks Xxxxxxx!
    http://www.gamblers007.com/top-10-famous-gamblers-who-beat-casinos/

    Dom
     
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  14. FrankScoblete, Jun 15, 2015

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    You are believing a guy who stole almost 51 thousand dollars from me? By the way, when you posted this on another board it was not Heavy who asked the questions. This fiction writing stuff is silly. I offered to show you the absolute proof but you turned me down.

    Okay, I am going to follow my beautiful wife's advice.
     
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  15. TDVegas, Jun 15, 2015

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    It gets uncomfortable when people constantly have to refer to their spouse as "beautiful" as if they have to validate something. You know she's beautiful, we don't have to constantly be reminded.
     
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  16. Onautopilot, Jun 15, 2015

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    If I had of said "beautiful" more often, I might have still been married to my "beautiful" ex wife. :)
     
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    Frank, as I posted on the other board - I do not doubt that Dom ran up $51K on your business cards - that is not the issue. I think you have contributory negligence in that personal matter by allowing him to run up those charges ... you just described a very expensive "Trust, but Verify" episode and lesson in your book.

    FrankScoblete - Dom implies that your whole book is fiction. You try to deflect that issue by stating one part of your book about Dom spending freely on your Business credit cards is true. We don't really care about that 1 issue - that does not effect the Dice Community, it's a personal problem.

    What we do care about here is brainstorming to assist the Dice Community as a whole .... you are either here to help the Dice Community or hinder us in that venture. I will agree that lots of what you have done in the Craps world was a benefit for most Advantage players .... However, you got greedy and the tall tales of the Captain hinder Advantage players and the Dice Community.
     
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  18. TDVegas, Jun 15, 2015

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    I agree---tell her. I'd be a little creeped out if someone introduced their spouse at a cocktail party as "this is the beautiful AP"....
     
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    :) I forgot to add....My "beautiful", "Rich", ex wife!
     
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  20. TDVegas, Jun 15, 2015

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    Now you're on to something. Maybe that is why she is constantly referred to as beautiful. Money talks.
     
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