Anybody into Power Pressing???

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  1. TDVegas, Jan 8, 2020

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    There is no one size fits all. Too many personal factors, imo.

    Some may play a lot less and when they do....they want more action than 1 number in play.

    some might play less and be very comfortable with 1 number....and keep the money focused on 1 number.

    Some are action players. More numbers the better.

    Some, like me, are middle of the road....I try to have 3 numbers covered.

    Hero’s don’t reside here. Here they are craps players.

    My action is a grind play. I’m fine with that. I’ll never hit an ATS, Fire Bet, Horn or hop or field as I don’t play them. I do see much value in what Liman, KKJ and Mssthis do in parlaying wins as a part of strategy. At worst, you walk up a bit or even. Upside is you could capitalize big.
     
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  2. Mssthis1, Jan 8, 2020

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    Include me too. The pass line flat bet is the bet that trends, streaks, whatever you want to call it more often than any other bet. A winner is a winner even if it's not always the same number.

    Took me way too many years to figure that one out. Some never figure it out.
     
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  3. Dave G Ct, Jan 8, 2020

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    We are not talking about darkside betting. Should make no difference to you- every bet is independent so go play that downward trending table!
     
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  4. KokomoJoe4, Jan 8, 2020

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    777's book identifies the stupidity with which many (self sometimes included) play craps, saying that many will continue to make and lose the same bet over and over and over and over.............................

    It took reading this a few years ago to realize that I can and should put out a Don't bet in place of a Do after several losses the way I had intended to play.

    The important thing when at play is to win, not to limit yourself as to what wagers you will make.

    Mssthis1 is absolutely right about the Pass being the most common trend setter.
     
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  5. Mssthis1, Jan 8, 2020

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    I've seen people power press on the dark side too. Usually with the same results as power pressing on the do side has. ;)

    17 pass line losers in a row with no naturals is the most I've seen. Then it turned on a dime yet, two of the DP players at the table thought the trend would continue.
    When the next shooter made 6 points with a few naturals mixed in they martingaled all their winnings away and then some in a matter of minutes.
     
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  6. TDVegas, Jan 8, 2020

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    That’s crazy good luck for a dark sider not to have a comeout loser 7-11 to break it up.

    I think the wording “not gonna see better than this for a while”.....is a good time to cash out.
     
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  7. Mssthis1, Jan 8, 2020

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    If you play enough you'll see anything and everything.

    On the dark side, 3 bets is all I'll risk on a shooter. Once at Bally's in Vegas I was betting dark and it went around the table with no one knocking me off more than 1 bet and then a guy made 3 or more points. After him it went clear around the table with nobody knocking me off more than 1 bet and when it got to that shooter I doubled my bet figuring he couldn't make 3 or more points again.

    Guess what happened?
     
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  8. KokomoJoe4, Jan 8, 2020

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    A lot of the old timers who go out onto the Don't and Lay bets with pretty big wagers are smart enough to make no more bets with a loser. They typically do not start playing the other way when the table gets hot.
     
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  9. TDVegas, Jan 8, 2020

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    Yep....

    The term "that can't happen" doesn't apply in craps.
     
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  10. Dave G Ct, Jan 8, 2020

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    I for one do not like negative progressions with darkside betting. Fastest way to deplete your bank roll.
     
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  11. DeMango, Jan 8, 2020

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    Doesn’t happen if one set produces a SRR of less than 3!
     
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  12. von duck, Jan 8, 2020

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    IF? :confused: Yeah, IF? :cool: What a completely bullshit statement. IF? No shit? :)
     
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  13. Dave G Ct, Jan 8, 2020

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    With a SRR less than 3 there would be no need !
     
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  14. The Midnight Skulker, Jan 9, 2020

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    Might now, at the beginning of a decade, not be the right time to bring up the concept of utility again? I contend it is always good to have a primary and at least one, preferably several, secondary plans in place when you walk into a casino. Obviously all but one of these plans should be casino related: game selections, betting strategies, where to wait out dry spells, and the like. What I'll wager a vast majority of players do not have is a plan for an activity other than gambling when they are cursed.

    I still pat myself on the back -- don't worry, I've learned how not to hurt myself -- for what I did on my first extended trip to Orlando. I caught wind of a Seminole casino in Tampa, so I drove over to check it out on a Saturday. (IIRC it was about a two hour trip, one way.) Walked in, saw there were no table games . . . and walked out. Back in Orlando I browsed through the flyers in the "what to do here" rack at the hotel -- no internet back then, which should give you an idea of how long ago this occurred -- and discovered a cruise to nowhere out of Madeira Beach, which I took on some of my subsequent trips to Orlando, but that particular day I broke even. ;)
    I just had my annual thought -- and so early in the year, yet!. What other bet -- single, not combination -- has eight -- count 'em, 8 -- ways to win on a single roll?
    I have previously reported when I figured this out.
    Nemesis doesn't take sides. Here's another moldy oldie.
     
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  15. yacraps, Jan 9, 2020

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    I'll bite...which bet has eight ways to win on a single roll ?
     
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  16. KokomoJoe4, Jan 9, 2020

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    the P and the C come out roll wins on [6][5], [5][6], [6][1], [1][6], [2][5], [5][2], [4][3] and [3][4]. :)
     
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  17. HornHiYo, Jan 9, 2020

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    And several more ways if you include pictures of the various axle combos that support the top face outcomes pictured above. :)
     
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  18. Dave G Ct, Jan 9, 2020

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    You call winning on a 7 on a Come Bet winning? One instance where the math guy falls on his face. The game is not judged on the winning of a single bet but with it's total interplay concerning all bets in play. Can we all say " Get real"
     
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  19. von duck, Jan 9, 2020

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    I'll give you one that has 16 ways to win on a single roll. :)
     
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  20. HornHiYo, Jan 9, 2020

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    Yo Dave..... I think KoKo said P (pass line) AND C (come bet). Regardless, both bets are valid and accepted in bank craps as much as any other number on the layout. In fact, one of them is "required" if ya want to shoot. Any player who collects more bets than he/she loses in a given session is a "Winner" in my book. It doesn't matter which number the money was on so long as it pays off.

    I've been fortunate enough to hit table max a number of times using the three point Molly. (That's a combination of only a Pass line bet with a couple come bets). Are you saying just because I won on only the Pass LIne and Come bets I was not a winner?
     
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