I have hedged the 4 and 10 on the 5th and even the 6th point on the fire and have put money on the hardway. The second week of Jan. 2016 at Caesar's AC I had $3 on the fire and 10 was the 6th point. I laid $600 against the 10 and place $100 on the hardway. Boom hard 10 and left the hardway money up and it hit again for another $700. Won $4500 on that roll. It does not work all the time, but I love those 4 & 10's on the 5th or 6th point.. I do not walk away from sure money.