All Small! All Tall! Make’em All!

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  1. tercol58, Aug 24, 2013

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    How many here have played tables with this bet? I just heard it may replace the fire bet at a casino near me not sure I want to see the fire bet leave.All Small! All Tall! Make’em All! seems not to be as profitable if you hit and it looks like you have to put money on each bet so it would cost more per shooter.
     
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  3. lucky2bALady, Aug 25, 2013

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    I LOVE this bonus bet! I do not have it in CT casinos but when I travel, I love to find casinos that have it. I have done fairly well on it..2 dollars on each of them. Seems to come up often on a hot table. I personally hit the all small x2, all tall once and have was 1 away from hitting them all twice!! Such a fun bonus game to keep track of.
     
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  4. tercol58, Aug 26, 2013

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    I may be a bit happier about this now thinks for the input
     
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  5. tercol58, Aug 26, 2013

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    I didn't see on wizard of odds what is the max bet for this $5?
     
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  6. The Midnight Skulker, Aug 28, 2013

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    I have played once where this bet was offered, and I was not impressed. The problem I had with the bet was that it did not seem to fit with the main game. With the Fire bet you are betting that you will make points, just as you are when betting the Pass Line. With All-Tall-Small you are simply betting that you will roll a set of numbers before a 7, so on comeout rolls you may be looking for a craps number to complete a set, which of course loses your Line bet, or you may cheer when you win on the Line with a 7 only to realize you lost the side bet.

    Just for giggles and grins I did put myself and the dealers on all three bets twice, both times when I was the shooter. (The bets are independent BTW; you do not need to make all three of them, although I noticed most players do.) I rolled a 7 immediately on the first attempt, and did not even come close on the second.
     
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  7. tercol58, Aug 28, 2013

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    With the fire bet you can hit a 7 on any come out roll and it will not effect the fire bet only the 7 after the point is established. What you are saying with the All-Tall-Small the 7 is a problem even income out rolls I would see that as a huge challenge. I love hitting 7/11 on the come out roll and don't mind the craps as they are always hedged. This put the bet back in the negative for me of well.
     
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  8. Dougray2, Dec 4, 2013

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    Personally, I like the small, tall, and all bets better than the fire bet. They definitely hit more often than the fire bet and the house edge is much lower. I don't play them on every shooter, but I will usually pick my spots and throw a dollar on each one. I've only hit the all bet once, but have won small and tall several times. The STA bets, or bonus craps, are available at all M-life and Boyd casinos.

    The only advantage the fire bet has over the STA bets is STA loses on a come out 7 while the fire bet does not. I wish the casinos would offer the fire and the STA bets so that players could bet on either one or both if they choose.
     
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    I've seen the max bet as high as $50 at Tunica.
    Small and Tall pay 35 to 1.
    All pays 175 to 1.
    Each is paid seperate.
    Hit the small get paid $35
    The tall pays $35
    The all pays $175
    For a total of $245.
    Bet $50 each and you have a serious win.
    I saw it happen once.
     
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  10. DeMango, Dec 4, 2013

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    It's the new crack cocaine of craps. Coming soon to Treasure Bay in Biloxi. Now only (AFAIK) the smoke free Palace has no side bet. The not so Grand continues with the firebet which I do not waste money on.
     
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  11. tercol58, Dec 20, 2013

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    I was at a table last nite when a shooter hit the small after a very long roll. I think he hit the 7 on the come out roll about 4 different times wiping this out with only 2 or 3 numbers shy of all not filling either side was really a heck of a roll he still hit the small before he went 7 out. Please forgive me I am not a writer
     
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  12. $nakeEye$, Dec 21, 2013

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    THAT is THE problem with the ATS bet -

    ANY 7 - ANYTIME / EVERYTIME -

    Causes ALL NUMBERS to FALL by the way-side -

    IN and of that - is where the house advantage lies -

    Come -out 7 - WINNER on the line - LOSER on the ATS !

    IF the house did NOT have an edge / advantage over this or ANY bet -

    Do you think it would be on the layout ?

    Where is the PL odds option ON THE LAYOUT ?

    Where are the Come bet ODDS option ON THE LAYOUT ?

    $...eE..$
     
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  13. Dougray2, Dec 21, 2013

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    I was in Biloxi Dec 14 to 18 and played lots of craps. I hit the STA bet at IP for a $246 win ($35 small, $211 tall and all) I also won the small or tall bets 4 other times. On one roll, a shooter got all the small numbers which won me $35, then got a come out 7, and kept on rolling and hit all the small numbers again. I didn't go back up but other players did and they won twice on the same roll!
     
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  14. Dave73, Dec 24, 2013

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    Ive seen two ways this bonus game was played. In Vegas (dont recall where) they did not mark the numbers if no one was on the bet. You could come up at anytime and make the bet as long as no numbers were marked. As soon as you made the bet they started marking numbers. At a Boyd casino in LA they started marking on the Comeout even if no one was on it. It seems like this just reduces the number of chances for the casino and the player
     
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  15. $nakeEye$, Dec 24, 2013

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    In AC the fire bet numbers that were hit are also recorded / marked with the appropriate marker on the layout -

    Regardless if any bets are on the fire bet or not -

    Apparently it is a way for the casino to ' track ' the results and also to prevent a new player at the table to attempt to place a wager on the bet after the 1st point # was established !

    $...eE..$
     
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  16. tercol58, Jan 9, 2014

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    hit this today $3 on each one made only about $1,000 all total not even sure the exact payout on the prop bet I need to work on that.
     
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  17. $nakeEye$, Jan 9, 2014

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    tercol58 -

    Good for You ! -

    Take the better half out for a little ' fun ' -

    May this be the ' 1st of many, many more ' !

    $...eE..$

     
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