A DI Stepping Up

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  1. DeMango, Jun 18, 2017

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    You can bring your wife to Tunica. She can watch the cotton grow!!
     
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  2. KokomoJoe4, Jun 18, 2017

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    One thing that so-called RR's and so-called DI's on this sight DO have in common is an appreciation for a nice win, where any win is a nice one.

    Your so-called motto is wrong. DI's are the group changing the norm, which starting in the sixth grade, is the statement: "flipping a coin and rolling two dice are examples of random activities, the results of which are beyond our control, but within our mathematical expectation."

    When an activity such as chucking is changed from being random to being controllable, it is the changers who must show proof.

    I have not seen it, have you? On the other hand, I have seen, of course available for a price, instruction on what supposedly can be the learned skilled of dice influencing.

    To me, this appears to be a sham for obvious reasons. To others, it is seen as an opportunity. C'est la vie.
     
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  3. $nakeEye$, Jun 18, 2017

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    Actually the bottom line is to be
    able to modify your grip to overcome bouncy tables

    This is where the underhand grip outshines all overhand grips

    Hands down!

    BUT - Wrist Up !

    $...eE..$
     
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  4. tabletop123, Jun 18, 2017

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    Really? Ya mean to tell me you don't know how to make the Overhand mimic the underhand toss? Tell me it ain't so!
     
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  5. $nakeEye$, Jun 18, 2017

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    To answer your question in a single phrase

    NO

    Which is why I must resort to the under hand toss !

    $...eE..$
     
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  6. $nakeEye$, Jun 18, 2017

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    Simply put it is backwards rotation vs.forward rotation

    Apples and oranges !

    $...eE..$
     
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  7. tabletop123, Jun 18, 2017

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    True. However, you can impart forward spin with a Overhand grip!
     
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  8. Dave G Ct, Jun 18, 2017

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    Saw a table at Foxwoods which I never played before.It is as hard as FP' s table!
     
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  9. Dave G Ct, Jun 18, 2017

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    Top has been watching FP who does use forward spin on his OH
     
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  10. von duck, Jun 19, 2017

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    Do you think that he " creams" the videos you see, duh. Anybody can show you videos of one great roll after another, I could do it, you'd never see me have a bad roll. I wouldn't have to lie, just not tell the "whole" truth. In legal terms, it's a self serving statement.
     
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  11. rongarm10, Jun 20, 2017

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    It really does not matter that much to me when a perp shows videos of an "everlasting no 7 rolled video". I have been at tables where a few perps have tossed the dice setting them or not setting them, and have 15-20 min tosses. As u mentioned, von duck, even u could do videos such as FP and never have a bad roll. Just saying
     
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  12. Dave G Ct, Jun 21, 2017

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    No you can't do what Full Press does.Yes you will make one or two decent ones
    He makes countless good ones.Not in his league .
     
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  13. gargoil, Jun 21, 2017

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    Seriously shows how NAIVE you are Dave. The guy (Half Pint) is a charlatan. ANYONE can throw better then him on a make shift table. He talks a big game but on his "casino video" he bets what 22 inside? give me a break. As for his "forward spin" over hand toss??? the one that splatters all over the place ON A HARD SURFACE..

    I guess I have been wanting to say this for a while and this is a perfect time for it. This is not a "DI" stepping up, this is a JOKE stepping up. And before you ask YES I can do better and have done better and NO I will not post videos for you or anyone else. The people that have been around me can prove what I am saying is true.

    Dave you need to wake up and smell something. Your heroes are zeros man. Quit making silly statements like "You can't do what Full Press does". In the words of TableTop: "Who the F**K is he?? GOD's gift to craps??"
     
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  14. Dave G Ct, Jun 21, 2017

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    A few points .
    Yes his toss is not exactly " poetry in motion".But given that he has too many plus 30 roll hands to say that anyone can do that.His table is a hard neutral table which I have seen.He had one series changing dice sets every 2 rolls.Shot 42 rolls one 7.I cannot do that.
     
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  15. tabletop123, Jun 21, 2017

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    Well, Dave, one thing about me......I will admit when I am wrong. Yep, I got too excited by Full Press's videos WITHOUT using common sense!

    Sure, anybody can film ONLY the good sessions on their phone & upload them on YouTube. Remember, the guy is retired, so he has all friggin day to film videos UNTIL he gets a good one of 10-30 tosses.

    Do you think that a person with a ghetto table or a real table couldn't produce at least one decent video per day? You don't think YOU could post one good video per day tossing into your wooden box, if you were retired, & had a WHOLE day (every day) to do it?

    Gargoil is correct. He is now tossing on a outrageously Dead Layout wherein the dice don't move. Also, he is at a $5 table at the Casinos, making minimum table wagers.

    No $66 inside, or $180 Across like he purports in his videos. Yeah, he fooled me too, but that's what happens when ya don't use logic.

    For Christ's sake......The guy just learned about lay bets, & a grip (Yuri) that is older than Moses!

    The Yuri grip was the very first grip that I learned back in 2009. The grip induces too much spin, & there is no way that you can minimize the rotation by adjusting the thumb.

    You're either on the edges of the dice or you're not! Any time you get a guy that advocates crashing the dice into the back wall......RUN!
    The less the dice bounce, the more chance for influence. Why would you want a lot of action on your rollouts?

    The guy had one die to land on one end of the table, & the other die to land ON THE OTHER end of the table, did NOT seven out, & replied: "That's our influence folks". "That's our 14-2 odds over the Casino, people" lol.

    NOW, & only now......TDVegas has something to "rib" me about, because I made a complete fool of myself by BELIEVING the hype.

    Now, TD, before ya take a swing at me......Allow me to remove my teeth, first! Lol
     
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  16. tabletop123, Jun 21, 2017

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    Sure you can if you have 24 hours in which to do it. Just like an Actor, it might take 50 takes, but sooner or later.......WALA......Its finally accomplished.
     
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  17. Dave G Ct, Jun 21, 2017

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    Who is going to waste their time?
     
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  18. tabletop123, Jun 21, 2017

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    People that strive for attention......Like Full Press. Possibly yourself, but unfortunately ( or should I say: Fortunately) you have a job!
     
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  19. Dave G Ct, Jun 21, 2017

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    How do you explain that 42 roll hand with one 7?
     
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  20. $nakeEye$, Jun 21, 2017

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    The SAME way one explains the 150+ roll at the Borgota Casino a few years back by the Denville, NJ grandmother - Patty DeMauro !

    $...eE..$
     
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