a couple questions on dice tossing

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  1. twodicebilly, Jul 3, 2017

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    The point is rather simple... this is not the fist time you
    indicated a random roller can have a good roll,....as if
    that means anything.... it does not since no Di ever
    indicated hey could not have a good roll..

    The reason a person works with the dice , or his shot or some
    type of betting system is to do better than an average person.
    the majors have a number of guys than can hit a home run....but
    you pay more for the guys that can hit more than one....

    I bet you have never had one......and that should tell you something.

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  2. TDVegas, Jul 3, 2017

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    You can believe that. I don't.
     
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  3. TDVegas, Jul 3, 2017

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    Never had a 60 roll?

    How do you presume to reconcile that bet? My word?
     
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  4. superrick, Jul 3, 2017

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    You are the best what can I say, we all know that if everyone played like you they would all be winners!
     
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  5. twodicebilly, Jul 3, 2017

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    its simple TDV

    that lady that had that 22 roll did not either, you play far more
    than many Di and you never had one....yet many Di have had
    a number of them......

    Yet a person that has never had one keeps telling others
    what they do is a waste of time....

    I find that amazing.,.... and telling.....don't you

    twodicebilly.
     
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  6. TDVegas, Jul 3, 2017

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    I said I don't know. I don't keep tracking data. That's 4 boards worth of numbers at 15 per board....Again.....no idea. I don't track as a rule. I've had long rolls...just can't pinpoint an exact number. There are MANY DI's that don't track their rolls.

    Why do you keep saying none as if you personally know?

    If long rolls meant anything...Pat DeMauro would be king (queen) of all players.
    She is the ONLY one with casino documented numbers. Yours are not.

    These are merely your claims of 60+ rolls for you and "many DI".

    You have no independent witness for your 60 roll. Even if there was? So what. I play solo. Even if I had 10 of them....this would simply be my claim.
     
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  7. superrick, Jul 3, 2017

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    OH, come twodicebilly, you know that TBV and OAP know more about the game then anybody else and if everyone does what they write we will have a lot more winners!
     
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    What? If my post was worthless, what the heck would you call yours?
     
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  9. twodicebilly, Jul 4, 2017

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    Autoguy

    That is very easy...... a worthless responce to a worthless
    post....


    I am not sure that is saying much for either of us..but
    there it is.

    tdb
     
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  10. twodicebilly, Jul 4, 2017

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    I know I don't have to explain my point to you, not that you
    always agree with my point :)))

    If TDV had a 60 roll he would remember, you had them, I had them
    hell Carlito my playing friend here had a 100 hand several years ago
    verified by the stickman.
    Who in the hell cares.....that does not make you a winner, to be honest
    does not even make a person a good player, all it says it can make
    a difference if you put in some time...

    I only brought his up because TDV indicated the women had a 22 hand
    and did not know anything about craps.... that was not an empty reference by him....

    If you want to be a random player....be one and I for one think
    that is great, if you have rocks in the head and want to work as hard
    as it takes to develop a good shot do that.....

    Some one gets on here and says hey I an random....I wont say anything, some one gets on here and say hey I set the dice and I win more than I lose..... great.....

    I just pick them up and toss them....great.... I always set the 3V great,
    imagine what a nice place this could be if certain people respect others points of view as they wish theirs were respected.

    Sounded like a 4th of July speech in a country most don't even understand what the 4th is all about...

    tdb
     
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  11. TDVegas, Jul 4, 2017

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    I have honestly stated...I would not remember the number 60. I've had long rolls. Could it have been 56? 58? 62? 64?

    I would not know UNLESS I tracked ALL rolls.

    I have had long rolls. Do I know how many have gone past 60....or have all been in the mid 50's?

    No idea.

    Meaningless, IMO.

    Pat DeMauro rolled 150+.

    Billy,
    You don't just want respected...you want accepted. As in your claimed DI skills to be accepted. As in the idea that hard work at craps makes you a better player to be accepted as fact.

    Some don't view the game like that. I'm one of those.

    I guess I could say nothing...but when when someone says they are 29% better than me at craps...."no question whatsoever"...sorry pal, that will not be respected nor accepted.
    As I said...if your wishes are for statements like this to be accepted and respected by me without question---you're delusional. You have self appointed yourself as better and then want that to be respected. What the hell is wrong with you?

    I bow to nobody...especially someone simply making claims on an Internet message board and then demanding respect for those statements.

    Practice what you preach, billy.
    I claim no betterment over anybody here...nor would I ever. You do...then want it affirmed and respected. Ya gotta be kidding.
     
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  12. superrick, Jul 4, 2017

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    You got that right, the 4th to me means that guys like snakeyes and myself put ourselves on the line to defend this country, even though I didn't get orders to go Vietnam when I was in the 82nd Airborne.

    Our unit was one of the lucky ones that did not get deployed. But I got to see first hand what war does to the guys that fight it.

    That is one of the reasons I got Married on the 4th of July, for me it's A celebration of our great country-and the onebI love.
    As always we will be celebration with our Corvette club up on Mount Charleston. TDVEGAS, You're more than welcome to come join us for lunch up at the lodge where it's always Cooler then down here in The Valley. I hope that everyone gets to spend it with their Family and friends.
     
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  13. TDVegas, Jul 4, 2017

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    Enjoy Rick...I'll be at a BBQ today and then Red Rock puts on an awesome fireworks display. Enjoy.

    Last time I was up at Mount Charleston I had terrible ear problems. Even when I first moved to Summerlin I noticed the altitude initially affected my ears. I'm not sure why as flying doesn't effect me....something about the mountain altitude gets my ears stinging...almost feeling like an ear ache.
     
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  14. superrick, Jul 4, 2017

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    Well, up on Mt Charleston we had 20 at our table for lunch as always the food was great and the temp was in the low 80's.

    Look, guys, you will not win money if you spend all your time in the casinos when you come to Vegas. One of the best ways to win when you come into town is just rent a car and get out of the casinos. Then only play when there is nobody on the tables if you like that kind of play! Up to the top of Mt Charleston is about 35 miles from my house here in Henderson at the base of Black Mt.

    I do not play craps when there is anything big happening in Vegas and the 4th is one of our biggest events of the year!

     
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  15. superrick, Jul 4, 2017

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    One more video up on Mt Charleston

     
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  16. twodicebilly, Jul 4, 2017

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    Had excellent session at the table today. Tom and I charted the table for 30 minutes before play and saw the 5 & 9 were hitting much more than the 8 and twice as much as the 6..

    We each had 2 hands , all in the middle to upper teens, and then a
    another player had a toss of 44 ( thank you very much)....

    NO need to play any longer....as Top says win and get the hell out

    Spent the day and some money at the dells and headed home.

    twodicebilly
     
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  17. random_roller, Jul 4, 2017

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    @twodicebilly

    Nice win, TDB. Over the weekend I stopped by and threw dice at a few St. Louis area casinos you have probably played at. I really liked Ameristar and surprisingly, Casino Queen, which has easy access via Metrolink from downtown St. Louis.
     
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  18. rongarm10, Jul 4, 2017

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    $nakeEye$ since you are one of just a few tossers here that toss underhand, how do your dice travel? In other words are they close together, one following the other, or they pretty much apart? I have tried some underhanded tosses but they are not even close together at all. I don't get a lot of revs on them either. I am just curious as to how your dice go when you toss underhanded. I mite try to practice doing a underhanded toss just to see if it is something that I could do. Just sayin.
     
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  19. DeMango, Jul 5, 2017

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    I think Snake retired from this board. Again. Maybe $5 Dave will chime in. I use an edge grip myself.
     
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  20. twodicebilly, Jul 5, 2017

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    Thanks Random

    This was one of those days when watching and recording paid off prior to playing....I started playing only 5 & 9 then added 4 for a spell and then
    later the 8.

    hands went like this,

    5,5,9,10,11,9,8,7 some guy
    455/6/5/8/7 some guy
    5/5/8/9/9/11/10/2/4/10/9/7 some guy
    11,9,4,4,5,8,11,7 some guy
    3/6,5/9/6/7/5/4/7 some guy
    5/6/7 some guy
    7/8/7/ some guy
    3/5/5/7/11/2/9/9/10/10/4/3/10/8/9/12/4/5/7 me
    7/8/5/9/10/5/9/12/9/8/3/6/6/4/3/5/7 tom
    9/9/8/7/ some guy
    11/6/7 some guy
    8/8/8/11/7 some guy
    5/9/8 some guy,
    7/9/8/9/7 some guy ( 8/s got pretty active last few guys)
    11/5/8/11/8/6/6/8/5/6/5/11/11/5/10/8/7/12/3/3/8/8/5/11/9/6/5/4/8/9/3/4/6
    8/2/11/6/5/9/3/9/8/7 some guy
    5/8/6/3/11/5/7/3/9/5/94412/2/6/5 me
    7/11/5/6/6/5/7/8/6/8/9/10/3/11/6/6/8/7 tom

    Several guys went broke, one guy that got there just before the long roll and was a big better did well.

    tdb
     
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