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  1. Edward-ky, Feb 17, 2018

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    I would have to say dont really care about grammatically correct on this board. Makes me laugh seeing some of you concerned with it.
     
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  2. TDVegas, Feb 17, 2018

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    Then all those players should be craps millionaires. How come none of them are craps millionaires?

    The reason?

    Sometimes it works. Sometimes not. About 50/50. It's the only logical answer. That's why none of them are craps millionaires...including you.
     
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  3. Edward-ky, Feb 17, 2018

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    Well they may end up very close to their expected profit advantage but there in no way to trully know what profit they are gaining from certain bets such as place 6 and 8. You can figure what is expected. Now when its all electronic craps game they could figure that out.
     
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  4. von duck, Feb 17, 2018

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    You must be referring to the posts that TR-31,posted for you, which you said then, would only happen once in a blew < moon. The numbers that catch my eye, are the back to back, triple, or quad, craps throws. I will see a triple at least once almost every time I play, and I never spend more than a total of 2 hours playing. That's only about 175 rolls a most. This has gone on for a year or more, so it's getting into the long run. The odds of a triple are over 700/1. It is NOT random. This would be the only logical conclusion. :)
     
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  5. Edward-ky, Feb 17, 2018

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    There isnt a soul on here believes that losing if fun. If there is please post a quote from that player. And if someone believes that then why even be concerned with it. I watched people playing and apparently not care whether they won or not. Although sometimes it is fun to watch the tantrums people throw at the table.
     
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  6. James Hall, Feb 17, 2018

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    The RANDOM PLAYER , when playing and waiting for random variance , can know it will occur
    but he can ONLY WAIT for it to occur and HOPE it occurs in his favor.
     
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  7. Edward-ky, Feb 17, 2018

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    I wouls say majority of people that play 6 and 8 mostly are those casual players that are not really playing them due to the math really, more of they were told those are better bets. I would say most players couldnt figure out expection. Kinda like some people think the field bet is a great bet just cause it shows all those numbers that win. You tell them there is more ways to lose then to win and they are shocked. Then you got to love those big 6 and big 8 betters.
     
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    Do what you choose. In retrospect, I probably should have said it in "an" PM. :)
     
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  9. TDVegas, Feb 17, 2018

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    You can't understand it because no one says that.

    Find me one person here who has ever said "fun while losing". This goes along with your other horseshit "go with $200 and play until it's gone"

    You make shit up.

    Maybe the Mesa crew plays like this...not the players here.
     
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  10. James Hall, Feb 17, 2018

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    Come on Edward , You're not TDVegas , I didn't say anybody said losing was fun
    What I did say was , "I CANNOT FOR THE LIFE OF ME UNDERSTAND PEOPLE WHO SAY PLAYING IS FUN WHEN THEY ARE LOSING"
    I didn't say anybody believes losing is fun
    That is the kind of trick , "TEDIOUS VEGAS" pulls to make statements sound false it's very disingenuous
     
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  11. von duck, Feb 17, 2018

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    The big 6 and big 8 are mathematically, no worse than some hard ways, and better than some others, So who are you lookin down on. :)
     
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  12. von duck, Feb 17, 2018

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    Just speak for yourself TD, we don't really know how other people play. :). What part did he make up, about the $200?:confused:
     
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  13. James Hall, Feb 17, 2018

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    The Mesa guys , "PLAY TO WIN" , they love the , "TRENDS"
    You have said you are a recreational player , you have said you play for fun
    You are not net positive , Having fun ?

    I have had many many players say , "I know I can't win but I love the game . I buy in for $100 and when it is gone I quit
     
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  14. TDVegas, Feb 17, 2018

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    I'm confident I'm not just speaking for myself.

    "I go with $200 and play until it's gone"....is a typical Hall statement that he applies to others. It's horseshit.

    "Fun while losing"....is another. While they enjoy gambling...there is no fun in losing.
     
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  15. James Hall, Feb 17, 2018

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    Ease up , TDVegas 50/50 is a bit off at 50/50 they would be net negative , they aren't , some of them have bought craps tables out of winnings
    They aren't craps millionaires but they do OK , they do have fun
     
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  16. James Hall, Feb 17, 2018

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    You seem to be in a rather foul mood today , is it something I said ?
     
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  17. Edward-ky, Feb 17, 2018

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    So lets take what some people sat that are not on this forum and state it on here that this somehow applies to people on here.
     
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  18. James Hall, Feb 17, 2018

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    You are placing too much emphasis on the losing , a lot of people like to play even if they lose
    otherwise they would quit or , wait for it ' LEARN TO WIN"
    but then there is the rub
    YOU THINK NO ONE CAN LEARN TO WIN , and that ladies and gentlemen is , TEDIOUS VEGAS' ,BS
     
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  19. TDVegas, Feb 17, 2018

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    Sure...on the practice table.
    With all those do overs on the practice table..I'm sure that happens.
    So are you. So are the Mesa boys. I can't help it if you can't admit that. You play 4 times a year fer crissakes! You aren't saying you are a serious craps player!!!?? LOL.
    As do you. Craps isn't a money maker. There is no other reason. I play to win as well, but without the enjoyment factor...craps would have no relevance for anyone....sans degeneracy.
    For 2017....I was net positive. Very slight. Come betting, low HA betting. Learn it some time, James. Long haul it can work. It's tough.
    Must be the Mesa boys.
     
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  20. James Hall, Feb 17, 2018

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    Are you assuming that I AM APPLYING what many people say to people on here say
    If I refer to someone on here I will refer to them by their handle

    Edward you really need to stop trying to sound like TDVegas making those statements of generalities as tho I am directing them to
    specific individuals
     
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