32 across by Lou

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  1. offaxis, Oct 18, 2017

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    $32 across working on the come out, 5-5-6-6-5-5.
    On each collection take that unit down. 3 collections and all down until the next 7 and repeat.
    If hit with a 7 before 3 collections you Martingale your bets and do the same thing, 3 collections and all down and back to start.
    On the $32 across bet if you collect once or twice you just go $32 across, no increase. And no increase at any level if two collections made, just repeat previous bet or you can add 1 unit to each bet if happens more than once....that's it...on wincraps $1500 low and at $6100+ now 40 hours 4800 rolls 151 per hour avg. Have fun


    any thoughts





     
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  2. badddoin, Oct 18, 2017

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    No.
     
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  3. lone irish digit, Oct 18, 2017

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    I think you are wasting your time with simulating these betting strategies. You should tie your horse to Dave G. Just find Dave G at the Sun and mirror his bets. With his new mattress and MP underhand toss, the sky is the limit for this dude.
     
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  4. offaxis, Oct 18, 2017

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    sarcastic as always. Just would like to play a simple game. No complicated bets. Like to play the don't but looking for a Do, play. "i just like to help the guys but I'm so damn smart." That is part of your quote. The comment above is not a help at all. Just say hey this is why it is bad.
     
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  5. Dave G Ct, Oct 18, 2017

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    I see LID is using your name.He never forgets anything he comes across.lol.Did you try it at Foxwoods last night?
     
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  6. Speedracer7, Oct 18, 2017

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    offaxis......... I like the method, but could you expand on this part of your method or maybe give an example to help clarify?:
    On the $32 across bet if you collect once or twice you just go $32 across, no increase. And no increase at any level if two collections made, just repeat previous bet or you can add 1 unit to each bet if happens more than once....that's it... Thanks.......
     
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  7. Speedracer7, Oct 18, 2017

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    offaxis......... second question: If the point is hit say on the second hit......do you have your remaining place bets "working" for the next come out roll or wait for another point to be established?
     
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  8. twodicebilly, Oct 18, 2017

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    There are many ways to play and bet and betting across is one of
    those.

    The thing to remember is that is you are going to bet across and for kicks and
    giggles we assume the pass line bet completes your across betting system, the
    thing you need to remember is you need 6-7 hits just to get even and if your
    betting say a five as your pass line number with double odds, you need 1
    4 or 10, and a 6,8,9 and if you don't happen to hit your five, your going to
    need another 6,8,9 just to break even, That is seven rolls and if you throw a
    craps number or two that means you need to average 7-10 rolls a hand just to
    break even..

    That can be a tough road to hoe...., then if you have a short roll or a 7 out
    now you have to have 14-20 rolls to get even.

    tdb
     
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  9. basicstrategy777, Oct 19, 2017

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    What would trigger this across betting....or are you one of these 'everything is random ' devotee.

    How does good things that can happen verses bad things can happen...stack up.

    Seems like the bad things that can happen can cripple you quick. Why subject yourself to quick crippling ? Why ?

    Is it not better to stick your toe in as opposed to a cannonball ?

    777
     
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  10. Mssthis1, Oct 19, 2017

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    3 hits is too aggressive if you are going to martingale. Believe me my wallet knows from distant past experience.
     
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  11. twodicebilly, Oct 19, 2017

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    The martingale is one of the systems that just assumes if you have enough
    money you can always finish everyday ahead...

    If that were true there would be no casino because there are a good number of people
    that have a significant bank roll.

    I know a few players that start very large across and after the first hit they reduce their
    across bets to 10% of the start, one starts $1000 across and goes back to $100.
    I am not that bold for sure... I have tried 5 units and reduce bets after 1-3 hits and I have tried
    $64 across plus pass line bet and after three hits reduce spread to only the box numbers
    I have hit.

    If you average 6-10 shots....I guess any of these would work

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  12. Mssthis1, Oct 19, 2017

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    I read it wrong the first time. I didn't realize they were collecting the win and taking that bet down. Martingales never work though. Sooner or later variance will wipe you out or you'll run against the table limits.
     
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  13. random_roller, Oct 20, 2017

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    On some level, I understand the attractiveness of 32 across betting. Initially, there are 24 ways to win and only 6 ways to lose on a given rolls. OP indicated a placed number that is hit is "and down". So while the amount at risk is lessened with each hit number, the total number of ways to win is also reduced. However, the number of ways to lose will remain at 6. In the end, it's just really tough to come out ahead for the session eeking out $7 or $9 a hit.

    At a $25 table Wednesday night, the guy playing next to me bet $272 across on every shooter (vig up front): $25 4 & 10, $50 5 & 9 and $60 6 & 8. First hit on any number was a full press. Second hit on any outside number (4, 5, 9, 10) was everything down on that number. Second hit on 6 or 8 was pressed to $240 (banking $10 and $20 from the 1st & 2nd hits respectively). Third hit on 6 or 8 was everything down. After a few hours at the table, he left with only a few green & red chips. Ironically, the big bettor at the table -- $2,000 each 5 & 9, $2,400 each 6 & 8, then $25 come bet w/100x odds left way up -- perhaps $40K to $50K -- because his timing at the table was unbelievably good. He was there for @30 minutes. If one is fortunate enough to be at the table when it is hot, almost any betting with the dice will result in a nice profit (provided he/she leaves the casino before giving back all/much of the winnings).
     
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    Good story. You gotta bet big to win big, or... bet big to lose big. Works both ways. Timing is everything.
     
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  15. random_roller, Oct 20, 2017

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    Definitely. Gotta risk big money to make big money. However, not everyone should/can afford to be big bettors.

    How are things going for you? Have you been to any of the new(er) casinos in New York?
     
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    I play in AC almost exclusively. I do get to WI and AZ. Can't complain about AC. The Nugget is great and I had a good win last time. I believe the crew in the Nugget is the best. We have a lot of fun, win or lose.
     
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    Can not fathom the reason to take a winning bet down. If the 4 hits take down the 10!!

    Heck, maybe it is rocket science!
     
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    Haven't been to AC in a while. I've played at several casinos in Wisconsin. Potawatomi (Milwaukee) is the closest one to where I live. If you're visiting WI and plan on playing, let me know. Chicagoland has multiple casinos, and the ones in Illinois are smoke free.
     
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    I've been in Potawatomi at least three times. It's near my daughter. I think I'm ahead there. Will let you know.
     
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  20. KokomoJoe4, Oct 20, 2017

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    It's not like you'll be destitute losing even a good number of these across bets, but I don't understand why you wouldn't instead put out $25 or $30 on one number, where one hit nets you a respectable win, instead of $7 to $9.

    Risk a little less, win a lot more.

    I understand that one bet takes a lot of the excitement out of the game, but the point is to win as much as you can with the money you are risking.
     
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