2016 Play

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  1. KokomoJoe4, Feb 21, 2016

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    Had the first loser of year today, - $135. Currently at 3-1 on the year, at only +$19. Hey, that's a buck more than LID.

    Play actually went pretty well today for the most part. Got ahead by at least $75 on four occasions, but not even one of my first level progressive bets was a winner. Lost a 25/50 and lost 10/60 on three different tries at it, once when I was shooting.

    Should have left after the last one, but ended up giving them over a hundred before calling it quits.
     
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  2. Onautopilot, Feb 21, 2016

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    Next time! How did the knee hold up?
     
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  3. KokomoJoe4, Feb 21, 2016

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    Not too bad OAP.

    Minimal pain since the surgery, not using anything except tylenol and constant ice.

    Still have little movement in the knee. Can straighten it out completely but can't flex much more than 75 degrees at present - pitiful, but working on it.

    Driving was no problem. Even with the clutched rides in winter storage, although had to jump one of them today.
     
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    koko-got me one of those battery tricklers, plug into the cigarette lighter and it keeps the battery fully charged.
    sometimes Id put the car away or not use it for weeks or months, battery was a problem in cold weather.
    not anymore.
    140 bucks I think. Well worth the investment.
     
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  5. KokomoJoe4, Feb 21, 2016

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    I have one that plugs into an outlet, and there is an outlet in the storage garage, but the damned thing works on an analog timer. In other words, you can only only get power for 45 minutes at a time, then when the timer runs out, you're out of luck.

    Works well when in the garage at home, but since I got the boy a new car, keep it in the third garage, so my sports cars have to go into storage. When spring gets here, I'll just keep my winter ride in the driveway.

    Thanks, that cig lighter charger sounds like what I need.
     
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  6. KokomoJoe4, Feb 26, 2016

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    Only took about a half hour of play today to get back on the right side of even, if you can call a $25 winner ahead.

    Finished up at work a couple of hours before a PT session, so went into the casino. A lot of traffic going in from the office, so by the time I got there, I almost had to leave to make the appointment.

    Not sure why, maybe because tt123 said he was going to play my way, but I stayed off the lines and did Seven Out's 50% method - not his Full Monte, but just placed $44 inside on most shooters. Didn't even get to shoot myself.

    Only one PSO, with a couple of shooters getting me 5 or 6 winners. There was no order with the outcomes seen, so couldn't decide whether to press or pull bets, so for the most part just let the $10 or $12 ride.
     
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  7. tabletop123, Feb 26, 2016

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    Are you kidding me? Jus
     
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  8. tabletop123, Feb 26, 2016

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    Are you kidding me? Just when i decide to do a kokomo, you go to the Casino, & do a TableTop. And come out a winner, to boot! Lol.

    Now, i'll have to reevaluate. Lol Continued Success at the Tables.
     
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  9. KokomoJoe4, Mar 20, 2016

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    Great session last night. Wasn't too crowded for a Saturday. Played for about 3 hours, where the first 2 1/2 hours was a lot of back and forth.

    Pounded them on my last shoot. Rolled for 35 minutes, hitting a 15/30 five, 25/50 four, 50 into 200 with a natural then another winner five, a 25/200 ten and then a 30/300 six before seven out sitting 50/300 on an eight, where I pulled 200 of the 500 odds after a bunch of "unsafe" outcomes in a row, so saved $200 there and ended ahead by $835. Had the dealers out for 5/10, 5/20 and 5/30 for my last three points, hitting 2 of 3.

    Haven't been playing much this year, but the W-L for 2016 is at 8-1. Last night was the only big win of the year so far, but any win is a good one.
     
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  10. Onautopilot, Mar 20, 2016

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    Nice win Koko, put a string of them together!
     
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  11. basicstrategy777, Mar 20, 2016

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    Nice win Koko......glad you sniffed some things out and came down on some money.

    I guarantee you, this kind of playing will assure you of more wins.

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  12. Craps Poopshoot, Mar 20, 2016

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    I played two sessions Saturday night 3/19/2016 at the Indian Casino.

    First session I played don'ts with no odds. I aborted the session because the dice simply could not roll anything but craps, yo's and sevens. I did not lose but I also could not win anything. It is pointless to play when it is like that.

    Second session at a different table with different dice proved to be better. I played a low volatility do's, the strategy from the book No-Nonsense Craps since the dice where hitting insides and repeaters.

    The result is that I walked out $5 ahead than with what I walked in with recovering my losses from Video Poker, and for playing at an Indian casino this is actually a testament to skill!
     
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  13. KokomoJoe4, Mar 26, 2016

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    Oh well. 8-1 has quickly turned into 8-3.

    Went in yesterday after an early end to the day at work, played one bet only, and never got ahead by enough to start the progression, although I was up maybe $50-60 several times. Ended with about a $100 loser.

    Today was pretty ugly play. Damn near every parlayed natural winner was followed by a craps or a point that didn't come back.

    Switched to the DC from the Come several times with things going badly, and wouldn't you know it the point would come back.

    Finally hit a couple of place eights, going from 18 to 30 to 60, but of course the seven shows before the next eight.

    When I managed to claw back to -$100 down from about -$250, I left, thinking I was lucky to get something back.
     
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  14. Craps Poopshoot, Mar 26, 2016

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    Friday I had off for 'Good Friday' (whatever that means to you), so I went to an Oregon coast casino to see if the Video poker was as messed up as the Indian casino that I normally visit. There I played Craps with the methods I have described above winning only a tiny bit. I lost about 190 playing Video Poker! Clearly the video poker there is as messed up as the other Indian Casino.

    Saturday, I went back to the Indian Casino "that I love to hate" and grind away with them on the darkside to a small profit. Then during a break I found an old 10 cent video poker (clearly they can't mess that up) and drew 4-Two's and a kicker. I won a fast $175. I then returned to the craps table, new crew and dice out, and one of my pals told me I just missed a great roll. Quick survey of the chip racks said to me that the dice where humming warm, so I started up a Insides betting for 2-hits and down. I would move up the insides with the winning till I had $100 profit.

    I left with recovering all of Fridays losses and about $45 profit to boot.

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  15. Pressit, Mar 27, 2016

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    I once had that book but can't seem to locate it. Tell me is this the book that has a PL method of betting where you don't increase your PL until the 3rd win? Can't remember if this system included placing odds behind the PL bet.
     
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  16. Craps Poopshoot, Mar 27, 2016

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    The author has a method called 'Table Time Plus', that I will make a video critique on it later, that only places odds behind a Six or Eight Passline or Come bet. The author suggest to not make 5/9 or 4/10 place bets because the house edge on those bets is high, 4% and 6% respectively.

    Given that the average roll is 8.3, and the 6 and 8 mathematically should roll 1 in 4 rolls. If the dice are fair, you should most likely win two hits on a 6/8 pair place bets before the seven shows. Typically when I place bet, I won't press till I have won enough to cover the spread of place bets.

    Pressing also has to be carefully understood as to what you are doing. Typically I won't press a bet up more than 3 times (example for a place six: $6,12,18) And I press slowly, like this per place Bet: Take,Take, Press, Take Take,Press, Take Take,Press, Take Take, take, - Then I repeat the pattern. The idea is that you want to profit the most you can on a hot roll, though you don't want to pushing all of your wins back on the board either and make no profit if the roll ends to soon. There is a balance you have to find that works for you.

    Small wins are far more common than big wins. Most people who play everyday will tell me that about once a month they get on a good roll 40+
     
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  17. Pressit, Mar 27, 2016

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    Thanks for the info. Just so you know, I located the book, and will give it another read. The book is small so it shouldn't take long to read. Some of the best books out there are less than 150 pages, Dice Doctor being one of them.
     
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  18. Onautopilot, Mar 27, 2016

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    Not really....expectation on place 6-8, is not based on average rolls per hand.

    Out of 36 rolls with a $6 each, six and eight place bet, the expectation is......10 wins = $70.....6 loses =$72.
     
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  19. KokomoJoe4, Apr 9, 2016

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    Marathon session yesterday. Got in there at about 7:30 P, and didn't get home until 3 AM. This is very unlike me, usually in and out.

    Stuck to mostly one bet play, although did have two comes going at the same time on a couple of occasions.

    Never fluctuated more than between -100 and +100. Ended ahead by $40. After 7 hrs, I'd have been better off working at one of the fast food joints. Oh well, ahead is ahead.

    The one time I was up by about $90, I had two bets going so couldn't even get into my progression, since losing both bets at one time would take me from starting progression to behind. This is something I have taught myself never to do.

    Hope some of you guys are having better luck than me. Only one respectable winner in a long time now.
     
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  20. basicstrategy777, Apr 9, 2016

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    suppose you have not seen a 6 or 8 in 36 rolls........has expectations changed ?

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