Random, It looks like Clemson's year. They have more offense than Bama. If I should win this contest, I wish you to have the great prize as payback for all your work to improve CrapsForum for everyone! Besides, 777's book is probably above my limits of comprehension. I'm still making come bets, and haven't been able to snipe a fire bet. I believe my Craps game is doomed to the ash heap of luck.